From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
kurt.hackel@oracle.com, the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>,
Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>,
Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall implementation
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:25:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ACC6C9C.7080707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ACB9074.1000804@goop.org>
On 10/06/2009 08:46 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>
>> Instead of using vgetcpu() and rdtsc() independently, you can use
>> rdtscp to read both atomically. This removes the need for the preempt
>> notifier.
>>
> rdtscp first appeared on Intel with Nehalem, so we need to support older
> Intel chips.
>
We can support them by falling back to the kernel. I'm a bit worried
about the kernel playing with the hypervisor's version field. It's
better to introduce yet a new version for the kernel, and check both.
> You could use rdscp to get (tsc,cpu) atomically, but that's not
> sufficient to be able to get a consistent snapshot of (tsc, time_info)
> because it doesn't give you the pvclock_vcpu_time_info version number.
> If TSC_AUX contained that too, it might be possible. Alternatively you
> could compare the tsc with pvclock.tsc_timestamp, but unfortunately the
> ABI doesn't specify that tsc_timestamp is updated in any particular
> order compared to the rest of the fields, so you still can't use that to
> get a consistent snapshot (we can revise the ABI, of course).
>
> So either way it doesn't avoid the need to iterate. vgetcpu will use
> rdtscp if available, but I agree it is unfortunate we need to do a
> redundant rdtsc in that case.
>
>
def try_pvclock_vtime():
tsc, p0 = rdtscp()
v0 = pvclock[p0].version
tsc, p = rdtscp()
t = pvclock_time(pvclock[p], tsc)
if p != p0 or pvclock[p].version != v0:
raise Exception("Processor or timebased change under our feet")
return t
def pvclock_time():
while True:
try:
return try_pvlock_time()
except:
pass
So, two rdtscps and two compares.
>>> + for (cpu = 0; cpu< nr_cpu_ids; cpu++)
>>> + pvclock_vsyscall_time_info[cpu].version = ~0;
>>> +
>>> + __set_fixmap(FIX_PVCLOCK_TIME_INFO,
>>> __pa(pvclock_vsyscall_time_info),
>>> + PAGE_KERNEL_VSYSCALL);
>>> +
>>> + preempt_notifier_init(&pvclock_vsyscall_notifier,
>>> +&pvclock_vsyscall_preempt_ops);
>>> + preempt_notifier_register(&pvclock_vsyscall_notifier);
>>> +
>>>
>> preempt notifiers are per-thread, not global, and will upset the cycle
>> counters.
>>
> Ah, so I need to register it on every new thread? That's a bit awkward.
>
It's used to manage processor registers, much like the fpu. If a thread
uses a register that's not saved and restored by the normal context
switch code, it can register a preempt notifier to do that instead.
> This is intended to satisfy the cycle-counters who want to do
> gettimeofday a million times a second, where I guess the tradeoff of
> avoiding a pile of syscalls is worth a bit of context-switch overhead.
>
It's sufficient to increment a version counter on thread migration, no
need to do it on context switch.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-07 10:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-06 0:50 [PATCH RFC] Extending pvclock down to usermode for vsyscall Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 0:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/pvclock: make sure rdtsc doesn't speculate out of region Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 0:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/pvclock: no need to use strong read barriers in pvclock_get_time_values Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 0:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 9:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-06 14:19 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-06 15:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-06 18:46 ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 10:25 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-10-07 19:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 20:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 21:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 21:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 21:51 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 21:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 20:48 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-07 21:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 22:36 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-10 0:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-10 18:10 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 18:20 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-12 18:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 19:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-13 6:39 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-13 20:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-14 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-15 19:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-27 17:29 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-27 18:20 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-28 5:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-28 9:29 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-28 9:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-28 17:47 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-29 12:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-29 13:03 ` Chris Mason
2009-10-29 14:46 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-29 15:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-29 15:55 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-29 16:15 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-01 9:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-02 15:28 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-02 15:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-01 9:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-02 15:46 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-03 5:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-04 20:30 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-05 6:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 14:52 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-05 15:07 ` Keir Fraser
2009-11-04 21:19 ` john stultz
2009-11-04 21:28 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-05 0:02 ` john stultz
2009-11-05 0:45 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-06 0:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/fixmap: add a predicate for usermode fixmaps Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 10:23 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-10-06 18:47 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 0:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] xen/time: add pvclock_clocksource_vread support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 10:28 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-10-06 18:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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