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From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, dvhltc@us.ibm.com, niv@us.ibm.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com, avi@redhat.com,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu: The Bloatwatch Edition, v7
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:05:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD531E5.6070103@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091014010956.GG6782@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 08:37:18AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
>> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>>> It's an old issue.
>>>> It's not only about RCUTINY, it's also about other rcu implementations:
>>>>
>>>> rcu_enter_nohz()/rcu_exit_nohz() are not called in pairs.
>>>>
>>>> irq_exit() calls tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() which calls rcu_enter_nohz(),
>>>> where is the corresponding rcu_exit_nohz()?
>>>> (or tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick())?
>>> The tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() function is called from the various
>>> per-architecture cpu_idle() functions (or default_idle() or whatever
>>> name that the architecture uses).  For example, in:
>>>
>>> 	arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c
>>>
>>> the cpu_idle() function invokes tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() just
>>> before invoking schedule() to exit the idle loop.
>>>
>>> And, as you say, tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() invokes rcu_exit_nohz().
>> These tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() which are called from the various
>> per-architecture cpu_idle() functions are not the opposite of
>> the tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() in *irq_exit()*. So I figure that 
>> rcu_enter_nohz()/rcu_exit_nohz() are not called in pairs.
> 
> OK, let's start with rcu_enter_nohz(), which tells RCU that the running
> CPU is going into dyntick-idle mode, and thus should be ignored by RCU.
> Let's do the idle loop first:
> 
> o	Upon entry to the idle() loop (using cpu_idle() in
> 	arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c for this exercise),
> 	we invoke tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick(1), which says we
> 	are in an idle loop.  (This is in contrast to the call
> 	from irq_exit(), where we are not in the idle loop.)
> 
> o	tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() invokes rcu_enter_nohz(),
> 	does a bunch of timer checking, and returns.  If anything
> 	indicated that entering dyntick-idle mode would be bad,
> 	we raise TIMER_SOFTIRQ to kick us out of this mode.
> 
> 	Either way, we return to the idle loop.
> 
> o	The idle loops until need_resched().  Upon exit from the
> 	idle loop, we call tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick(), which
> 	invokes rcu_exit_nohz(), which tells RCU to start paying
> 	attention to this CPU once more.
> 
> OK, now for interrupts.
> 
> o	The hardware interrupt handlers invoke irq_enter(), which in
> 	turn invokes rcu_irq_enter().  This has no real effect (other
> 	than incrementing a counter) if the interrupt did not come
> 	from dyntick-idle mode.
> 
> 	Either way, RCU is now paying attention to RCU read-side
> 	critical sections on this CPU.
> 
> o	Upon return from interrupt, the hardware interrupt handlers
> 	invoke irq_exit(), which in turn invokes rcu_irq_exit().
> 	This has no real effect (other than decrementing a counter)
> 	if the interrupt is not returning to dyntick-idle mode.
> 
> 	However, if the interrupt -is- returning to dyntick-idle
> 	mode, then RCU will stop paying attention to RCU read-side
> 	critical sections on this CPU.


You haven't explain the tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() in *irq_exit()*.
(tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() calls rcu_enter_nohz())

void irq_exit(void)
{
	....
	rcu_irq_exit(); /* This is OK, the opposite is in irq_enter() */
	if (idle_cpu(smp_processor_id()) && !in_interrupt() && !need_resched())
		tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick(0); /* where is the opposite ??? */
	....
}

This means if the interrupt -is- returning to dyntick-idle mode,
rcu_enter_nohz() is called again.

Take this flow as example:

cpu_idle():
while(1) {

  tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick()
     rcu_enter_nohz()                 *****
------->interrupt happen
        irq_enter()
        irq_exit()
           tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick()
              rcu_enter_nohz()       *****
<-------interrupt returns
  tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick()
     rcu_exit_nohz()                  *****

} /* while(1) */


You can see that rcu_enter_nohz() is called twice and
rcu_exit_nohz() is only called once in this flow.

It's because tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick()/tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick()
are not called in pairs, so rcu_enter_nohz() and rcu_exit_nohz()
are not called in pairs either.

Lai

> 
> So I do believe that rcu_enter_nohz() and rcu_exit_nohz() are in fact
> invoked in pairs.  One strange thing about this is that the idle loop
> first invokes rcu_enter_nohz(), then invokes rcu_exit_nohz(), while
> an interrupt handler first invokes rcu_irq_enter() and then invokes
> rcu_irq_exit().  So the idle loop enters dyntick-idle mode and then
> leaves it, while an interrupt handler might leave dyntick-idle mode and
> then re-enter it.
> 
> Or am I still missing something here?
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-14  2:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-09 22:49 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/3] Tiny RCU and expedited SRCU Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu: The Bloatwatch Edition, v7 Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-12  9:29   ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-12 16:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-12 17:30     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-13  6:05       ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-13  7:44   ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-13 17:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-14  0:37       ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-14  1:09         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-14  2:05           ` Lai Jiangshan [this message]
2009-10-14  2:49             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-27  7:26               ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-27 19:56                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-14  2:52             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/3] rcu: Add synchronize_srcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/3] rcu: add synchronize_srcu_expedited() to the rcutorture test suite Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-10  3:47 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/3] Tiny RCU and expedited SRCU Josh Triplett

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