From: Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Cc: Stefan Assmann <sassmann@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com, matthew@wil.cx
Subject: Re: GT/s vs Gbps for PCIe bus speed
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:51:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD655E1.7080005@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m33a5lsls1.fsf@intrepid.localdomain>
Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
> Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> so, maybe the right terms are
>> 2.5 GHz PCI-E
>> 5.0 GHz PCI-E
>
Yeah, the std nomenclature is PCI-e not PCI-E.
> I don't thinks so. It would be fine for PCI/PCI-X, as there is a clock
> signal with a given frequency. PCI-E doesn't use a clock signal. Really,
> the meaningful value is a cycle time (or number of cycles per second).
>
number of cycles/second == frequency.
cycle time = 1/frequency
>From a run-time perspective, the status is trying to
tell the user/admin what (steady-state) frequency the
links are running at : 2.5GHz or 5.0GHz.
> Of course one could calculate or measure a frequency (or spectrum) for
> a given code sequence on PCI-E. For example, for something like
> 01010101010101 (raw code) the (base) frequency would be 1.25 or 2.5 GHz
> for 2.0. For other patterns it would be lower.
>
>> No matter how many lanes, or how the data is sent (long or short bursts),
>> the frequency rate is a constant.
>
> Actually, this is not the case.
>
Frequency changing would require link re-synch.
This code is dealing w/steady-state frequency.
>> So, the data rate is not stated, just the cycle rate.
>
> Cycle rate, sure. Frequency, no.
>
I think nomeclature is mixed up here.
>> This would follow the PCIX syntax as well, which is
>> void of bandwidth illusions.
>
> Bandwidth, actually it may make some sense. But it would have to take
> #lanes into account, I'm not sure we want to do it. And it would create
> another confusion - raw vs effective bandwidth (like 125 vs 100 Mbps
> with Ethernet).
Again, trying to generate output that relates
to what devices are spec to run at: 2.5GHz or 5.0GHz links.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-14 22:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-14 8:42 GT/s vs Gbps for PCIe bus speed Stefan Assmann
2009-10-14 18:51 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-10-14 19:49 ` Don Dutile
2009-10-14 20:50 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-15 7:32 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-14 21:33 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-10-14 22:51 ` Don Dutile [this message]
2009-10-15 7:40 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-15 14:05 ` Don Dutile
2009-10-15 17:58 ` Krzysztof Halasa
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