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From: Jin Dongming <jin.dongming@np.css.fujitsu.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Lon Hohberger <lhh@redhat.com>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	LKLM <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kenji Kaneshige <kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC][Patch x86-tip] add notifier before kdump
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:48:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE948D6.2080809@np.css.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1fx927okr.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

Hi Eric

Thanks for your comment.
I will consider the method you suggested. Thank you very much.

Best regards,
Jin Dongming

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Jin Dongming <jin.dongming@np.css.fujitsu.com> writes:
> 
>> Vivek, Lon Hohberger
>>
>> Thanks for your comments.
>>
>> I also agree with your opinion, too. But I still have problems listed
>> as following.
>>     1. Nobody knows when the second kernel does not work well
>>     2. Too much time cost to startup the second kernel
>>
>> So I hope that following work could be done. 
>>     1. Add some code before kdump to monitor the actions of second kernel
>>        Something we worried about is that nobody knows when the kdump will not
>>        work well. If the second kernel does not work well, nobody knows when
>>        the best time is to restart. So we need to add some code such as setting
>>        watchdog. If we want to monitor second kernel, some work need to be done
>>        before it starts to work.
> 
> Any extra work done in the crashing kernel decreases the likely hood
> of the second kernel working.  If you want a watchdog I recommend you always
> run it and have the interval set large enough for the second kernel to boot
> before it starts petting it.  That way no code needs to run after a kernel crash.
> 
>>     2. Shorten the startup time of second kernel
>>        I think that the purpose of second kernel is used for backup information
>>        stored in memory to storage only. But the time cost is different
>>        according to the system architecture. And also I think that there are
>>        too many of device is not useful to get the memory information to
>>        storage. I think the startup time of second kernel should be shortened.
>>        I don't know much about second kernel, these are only my thought.
> 
> The second kernel can be anything you like.  Including a standalone executable
> if needed for very precise requirements.  Any improvements in boot time for a
> normal linux image should apply to the dump kernel.
> 
> Currently with a tight initrd and just dumping dmesg to disk I get away with
> a 20M crashkernel reservation, and it typically runs and does it's work before
> my watchdog fires.
> 
> Eric
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-27  8:39 [PATCH] [RFC][Patch x86-tip] add notifier before kdump Jin Dongming
2009-10-27 15:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-27 16:16   ` Lon Hohberger
2009-10-29  4:12     ` Jin Dongming
2009-10-29  5:32       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29  7:48         ` Jin Dongming [this message]
2009-10-29  7:52   ` Jin Dongming
2009-10-29 18:43     ` Eric W. Biederman

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