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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@linux-foundation.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/1] virtio_console: Add support for multiple ports for generic guest and host communication
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:00:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF41DF0.7050002@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911060900.49923.borntraeger@de.ibm.com>

Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> I know that Anthony disagrees, but _If we start over_, I still think we should 
> use that chance and leave the old virtio console untouched and add a new driver 
> for the host guest communication. IMHO it turned out that there is only a tiny 
> bit of commonality. (most code pathes check for use_multiport and  then do two 
> completely different things).
> I like simplicity. According to David A. Wheeler's SLOCCount, the old console 
> has 141 lines of code and the I truly believe that a separate guest-host comm 
> vehicle would also be a lot simpler if it must not take care of the old 
> virtio_console interface.
>   

It's the wrong metrics for evaluating a device ABI.  We should consider 
device ABIs based on whether they make sense--not about how many lines 
of code it takes to implement the Linux driver.

Fundamentally speaking, right now, virtio-console is a single stream 
that acts as an interactive terminal.  What we're looking to add here is 
to support multiple terminals that can be enumerated in a rationale way.

I see no reason why that should be two separate devices.

> On the other hand we all should agree on one driver vs. two drivers before we go 
> on. Everything else would be unfair to Amit, who had the unpleasant task to 
> implement conflicting review comments....
>   

I agree and there are multiple maintainers on the qemu side who feel the 
same way I do.  I'm really strongly opposed to making this separate devices.

If you think it's easier, you can do a check in the virtio_probe 
function that checks for the feature bits and calls a completely 
separate virtio initialization routine so it ends up being two separate 
files in Linux.  But that's a Linux implementation detail.

> Christian
>   


-- 
Regards,

Anthony Liguori


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-06 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-03 16:38 [PATCH v10 0/1] virtio-console: Support for generic ports and multiple consoles Amit Shah
2009-11-03 16:38 ` [PATCH v10 1/1] virtio_console: Add support for multiple ports for generic guest and host communication Amit Shah
2009-11-06  7:10   ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-06  8:00     ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-11-06 13:00       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-11-06 14:12         ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-11-06 14:32           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-09 12:08     ` Amit Shah
2009-11-10  2:19       ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-06  7:43   ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-11-09 12:09     ` Amit Shah

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