From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
Vegard Nossum <vegardno@ifi.uio.no>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] [x86] detect and report lack of NX protections
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:59:35 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF9C627.1070206@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091110194304.GW5129@outflux.net>
On 11/10/2009 11:43 AM, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> This is fun. CONFIG_X86_PAE isn't defined for 64-bit, and using
> cpu_has_pae on 64-bit is considered a bug. :)
>
Yeah, it's somewhat obnoxious. This stuff is a result of the 32- and
64-bit code evolving separately for too long. All of this could and
should be cleaned up, but it takes a long time.
Either way, you can use the explicit form:
boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_PAE)
just fine, on any platform. However, the only case for which this can
be false is for the non-PAE kernel, since the PAE kernels (32 or 64
bits) cannot boot without it. I have personally never liked the
cpu_has_* shorthand macros, but they're occasionally useful for things
that have to be handled specially on 64 bits. Unfortunately they have
spread and people seem to think they're the only way.
> Here is the matrix of what I want to see reported about NX at boot time.
> How do you recommend this be implemented?
>
> kernel cpu -> | CPU has PAE | CPU lacks PAE |
> | | CPU has NX | CPU lacks NX | |
> V +-------------------+-------------------+-----------------+
> 32-bit non-PAE | missing in kernel | missing in kernel | no message |
> +-------------------+-------------------+-----------------+
> 32-bit PAE | active * | missing in CPU | no message |
> +-------------------+-------------------+-----------------+
> 64-bit | active | missing in CPU | impossible |
> +-------------------+-------------------+-----------------+
> The box with the "*" is the only message currently reported by the kernel.
The last column should actually be "no message", "impossible", "impossible".
I also think "missing in kernel" is misleading in the 32-bit non-PAE,
no-NX case (as it would imply that another kernel could do something),
and I *really* fail to see why it is in any way different from the "CPU
lacks PAE" case -- which also means no NX. "Unavailable in CPU" seems
to beat everything.
So the logic that makes sense would be:
if (!cpu_has_nx) {
/* If the CPU can't do it... */
printk(KERN_INFO "cpu: NX protection unavailable in CPU\n");
} else {
#if defined(CONFIG_X86_32) && !defined(CONFIG_X86_PAE)
/* Non-PAE kernel: NX unavailable */
printk(KERN_NOTICE "cpu: NX protection missing in kernel\n");
#else
printk(KERN_INFO "cpu: NX protection active\n");
#endif
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-10 20:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-19 18:42 [PATCH] [x86] detect and report lack of NX protections Kees Cook
2009-10-19 23:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-20 2:04 ` [PATCH v2] " Kees Cook
2009-10-20 2:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-20 4:44 ` Kees Cook
2009-10-20 4:55 ` [PATCH v3] " Kees Cook
2009-11-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v4] " Kees Cook
2009-11-09 23:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-10 15:49 ` Kees Cook
2009-11-10 16:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-10 16:57 ` Kees Cook
2009-11-10 17:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-10 17:46 ` Kees Cook
2009-11-10 18:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-10 19:43 ` Kees Cook
2009-11-10 19:59 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-11-10 20:55 ` Kees Cook
2009-11-10 21:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-10 22:15 ` Kees Cook
2009-11-10 22:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-12 18:01 ` Yuhong Bao
2009-11-10 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-10 16:55 ` [PATCH v5] " Kees Cook
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