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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	systemtap <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
	DLE <dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 3/3] Add get_signal tracepoint
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:45:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B01E428.9070203@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091116230037.23EEB1A2@magilla.sf.frob.com>

Roland McGrath wrote:
>> Hmm, actually, trace_signal_send() doesn't record the return value.
>
> Is that because it's called before the action really happens?
> Is it important that it be called beforehand?  If it's called
> afterwards, it's easy to pass the return value.

I'm not so sure why signal sending events was put beforehand.
However, I assume that original intent might be recording
the *timing* of all signal generation (including SIGSTOP/CONT).

>> So, what about trace_signal_overflow() for RT-signals and
>> trace_signal_loss_info() for non-RT?
>
> Really you can distinguish those just by looking at sig and info, so
> perhaps a single tracepoint is enough.

Ah, right :-)

>  I guess it really depends on what
> filtering you would want and how inconvenient it is to have to apply that
> filtering.  Having these two distinct tracepoints lets you trivially trace
> only "silent information loss" without seeing the events where userland
> gets full information (if applications are paying attention).
>
> If you want to have a full suite of tracepoints where each one covers one
> unambiguous corner of the semantics, then there are more than these just
> for sending.  e.g. see below.

As Ingo said, I think this kind of finegrained events are optional.
I don't think we really need these events soon. IMHO, just adding
signal-loss event is enough at the first step.

But anyway, thank you so much for suggesting those tracepoints!

Thank you,


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu

Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.
Software Solutions Division

e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-16 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-13 22:52 [PATCH -tip 1/3] Pass mm->flags to binfmt core_dump for bitflag consistency Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-13 22:52 ` [PATCH -tip 2/3] Add coredump tracepoint Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-13 23:39   ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-14  0:00     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-14  0:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-14  0:06       ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-14  0:14         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-14  1:49           ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-14  0:25         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-13 22:52 ` [PATCH -tip 3/3] Add get_signal tracepoint Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-13 23:53   ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-14  0:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-16 21:51       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-16 22:09         ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-16 22:39           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-16 23:00             ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-16 23:45               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2009-11-17  6:01         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-17 15:26           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-14  0:29     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-13 23:09 ` [PATCH -tip 1/3] Pass mm->flags to binfmt core_dump for bitflag consistency Andrew Morton
2009-11-13 23:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-13 23:44     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-13 23:16 ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-13 23:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-13 23:29     ` Roland McGrath

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