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From: Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	nauman@google.com, dpshah@google.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	ryov@valinux.co.jp, fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp,
	s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com, taka@valinux.co.jp, jmoyer@redhat.com,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, righi.andrea@gmail.com,
	m-ikeda@ds.jp.nec.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	riel@redhat.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	czoccolo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Block IO Controller V3
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:59:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B14868F.7080609@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091130171347.GH11670@redhat.com>

Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 03:29:52PM +0800, Gui Jianfeng wrote:
>> Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> Hi Jens,
>>>
>>> This is V3 of the Block IO controller patches on top of "for-2.6.33" branch
>>> of block tree.
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> Hi Vivek,
>>
>> If an idle task is running group A and a normal task is running in group B, these
>> two group have the same weight, I think IO Controller should isolate group A and
>> group B, these two group should get 50% of the IO bw for each, right? But for this case,
>> we don't see any isolation, instead, group B monopolizes almost all IO BW. I guess
>> the major reason is idle cfqq is only allowed to dispatch one request and get expired.
>> I think in order to get better isolation, we shouldn't expire the idle cfqq immediately
>> if this idle queue is the only one this its group. The following patch enable idling
>> for idle queue and prevent expiring it immediately after dispatch one request if it's 
>> the only one in group. This patch is working for V3, hasn't tested on V4 yet.
>>
> 
> Hi Gui,
> 
> Thanks for the patch. I have intentionally kept idle queue make dispatch
> one request at a time system wide irrespective of group.
> 
> What's the use case scenario of enforcing idle dispatch more based on
> group weight. If somebody has marked a queue idle, he is not expecting
> much of that queue anyway.

  IMHO, If somebody decide to put an idle task into a group, i think he
  should know what will happen(isolation thing).

> 
> Now one can argue that for better isolation, don't make idle class system
> wide and an idle task should get more disk time if there are no other
> queues with-in group.
> 
> So for the time being I will leave as it is. We can fix this once somebody
> needs stronger isolation even for idle tasks.
> 

So, maybe we can rely on group_isolation tunable, when group_isolation == 1, 
we provide isolation for idle queues.


      reply	other threads:[~2009-12-01  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-13 17:39 [RFC] Block IO Controller V3 Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 01/16] blkio: Introduce the notion of cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 02/16] blkio: Keep queue on service tree until we expire it Vivek Goyal
2009-11-17 18:07   ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 03/16] blkio: Introduce the root service tree for cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 04/16] blkio: Implement per cfq group latency target and busy queue avg Vivek Goyal
2009-11-16 13:05   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 05/16] blkio: Introduce blkio controller cgroup interface Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 06/16] blkio: Introduce per cfq group weights and vdisktime calculations Vivek Goyal
2009-11-17 18:07   ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 07/16] blkio: Group time used accounting and workload context save restore Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 08/16] blkio: Dynamic cfq group creation based on cgroup tasks belongs to Vivek Goyal
2009-11-17 18:07   ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 09/16] blkio: Take care of cgroup deletion and cfq group reference counting Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 10/16] blkio: Some debugging aids for CFQ Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 11/16] blkio: Export disk time and sectors used by a group to user space Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 12/16] blkio: Provide some isolation between groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 13/16] blkio: Drop the reference to queue once the task changes cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 14/16] blkio: Propagate cgroup weight updation to cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 15/16] blkio: Idle on a group for some time on rotational media Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 17:40 ` [PATCH 16/16] blkio: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-11-17 18:07   ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-11-30  7:29 ` [RFC] Block IO Controller V3 Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-30 17:13   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-12-01  2:59     ` Gui Jianfeng [this message]

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