From: "\"C. Bergström\"" <cbergstrom@pathscale.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:20:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B219046.3080908@pathscale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912101601100.3560@localhost.localdomain>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>>> But not only is Fedora not following the rules,
>>>
>> You changed the rules. You require a Signed-off-by:. Fedora can no more
>> add a signed off by than you can. It's not their code nor Red Hat's code
>> any more than they "own" the kernel because they pay someone to work on
>> it.
>>
>
> You're avoiding the point: they are shipping it, they are paying for (at
> least some) development, and they seem to not even want to face the issue.
>
> Sign-offs aren't some new feature that took Red Hat people by surprise.
> The "get it merged upstream first" didn't change in any way from it: it
> just codified existing practice - of _course_ everybody expects copyrights
> to be honored and clear.
>
>
>> It's really simple: if you want to merge it *you* pull it and sign it off.
>> If you aren't prepared to do that then ask why Fedora should, its not
>> their code either.
>>
>
> I'm not shipping it. They are. That's the difference.
>
> I realize that you have some emotional attachments to Red Hat, but ask
> yourself (and answer honestly): what would you think if some random other
> distro was packaging tens of thousands of lines of kernel code and not
> apparently working at trying to get them upstream?
>
> Dave claims it's only been going on for a few months, but quite frankly,
> we all know better. The nouveau kernel modules have been shipped for a lot
> longer than just F12.
>
> And it's possible that other distros are doing the same thing. I happen to
> know that Fedora does it (and has been doing it for at least a year),
> because I happen to have an Intel development machine that runs Fedora and
> was shipped by Intel with an nVidia card (and has a power supply that
> craps out if you don't use several hundred watts of power, so I can't
> change it to something more power-efficient - seriously).
>
Thanks for the rather lengthly explanation, but in case you missed what
people are trying to say here..
With all due respect Linus..
"patches welcome"
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-11 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-10 6:17 [git pull] drm Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 15:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 15:40 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-12-10 16:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 17:40 ` Maarten Maathuis
2009-12-10 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 19:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-12-10 19:13 ` Robert Noland
2009-12-10 19:28 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-10 19:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-10 19:37 ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 19:45 ` Roland Dreier
2009-12-10 19:49 ` Pekka Paalanen
2009-12-10 20:35 ` Will Dyson
2009-12-10 21:12 ` Pekka Paalanen
2009-12-10 19:53 ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-12-10 23:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 23:50 ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 0:20 ` "C. Bergström" [this message]
2009-12-11 0:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 0:47 ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 1:34 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-12-11 0:21 ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 0:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 9:18 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11 9:34 ` David Miller
2009-12-11 10:15 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-11 10:20 ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 12:45 ` tytso
2009-12-11 12:50 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11 10:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-11 10:46 ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 15:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 17:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-11 10:02 ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-12-11 10:24 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-10 16:47 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-10 21:49 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-04 5:11 Dave Airlie
2010-02-11 4:20 Dave Airlie
2010-02-15 9:53 ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-02-15 20:12 ` Marcin Slusarz
2010-02-15 20:39 ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-02-15 22:13 ` Marcin Slusarz
2010-02-15 22:55 ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-02-16 1:19 ` Ben Skeggs
2010-02-16 11:39 ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-01-11 4:52 Dave Airlie
2009-09-29 3:52 Dave Airlie
2009-09-29 4:26 ` [git pull] drm Dave Airlie
2009-02-09 8:30 Dave Airlie
2009-01-07 1:59 Dave Airlie
2008-12-29 8:32 Dave Airlie
2009-01-04 19:19 ` Gabriel C
2009-01-10 2:03 ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-09 15:07 ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-09 18:03 ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10 1:13 ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10 2:04 ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-10 9:58 ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10 23:04 ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-10 23:51 ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-16 6:53 ` Brice Goglin
2009-01-11 9:29 ` Graham Murray
2009-01-11 9:56 ` Dave Airlie
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