From: David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: Convert BUG() to use unreachable()
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:09:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B2A65C6.7080009@caviumnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091217150120.GD24967@shareable.org>
Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>> Use the new unreachable() macro instead of for(;;);
>> *(int *)0 = 0;
>>
>> /* Avoid "noreturn function does return" */
>> - for (;;);
>> + unreachable();
>
> Will GCC-4.5 remove ("optimise away") the *(int *)0 = 0 because it
> knows the branch of the code leading to unreachable can never be reached?
>
I don't know the definitive answer, so I am sending to gcc@...
FYI: #define unreachable() __builtin_unreachable()
> If GCC-4.5 does not, are you sure a future version of GCC will never
> remove it? In other words, is __builtin_unreachable() _defined_ in
> such a way that it cannot remove the previous assignment?
>
> We have seen problems with GCC optimising away important tests for
> NULL pointers in the kernel, due to similar propagation of "impossible
> to occur" conditions, so it's worth checking with GCC people what the
> effect of this one would be.
>
> In C, there is a general theoretical problem with back-propagation of
> optimisations from code with undefined behaviour. In the case of
> __builtin_unreachable(), it would depend on all sorts of unclearly
> defined semantics whether it can remove a preceding *(int *)0 = 0.
>
> I'd strongly suggest asking on the GCC list. (I'd have mentioned this
> earlier, if I'd known about the patch for other architectures).
>
> The documentation for __builtin_unreachable() only says the program is
> undefined if control flow reaches it. In other words, it does not say
> what effect it can have on previous instructions, and I think it's
> quite likely that it has not been analysed in a case like this.
>
> One thing that would give me a lot more confidence, because the GCC
> documentation does mention asm(), is this:
>
>> *(int *)0 = 0;
>> /* Ensure unreachableness optimisations cannot propagate back. *I/
>> __asm__ volatile("");
>> /* Avoid "noreturn function does return" */
>> unreachable();
>
> -- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-17 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-08 9:55 [PATCH] ARM: Convert BUG() to use unreachable() Uwe Kleine-König
2009-12-08 17:07 ` David Daney
2009-12-10 17:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-10 17:55 ` David Daney
2009-12-16 13:58 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-12-17 15:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-17 17:09 ` David Daney [this message]
2009-12-17 17:17 ` Richard Guenther
2009-12-17 18:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 18:35 ` Joe Buck
2009-12-17 19:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:14 ` Joe Buck
2009-12-17 19:33 ` David Daney
2009-12-17 19:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-17 19:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 19:30 ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-21 20:10 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-22 14:09 ` Dave Korn
2009-12-22 14:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-22 14:49 ` Dave Korn
2009-12-22 11:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
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