From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755932AbZLTT3m (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:29:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754596AbZLTT3l (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:29:41 -0500 Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com ([209.85.211.182]:60272 "EHLO mail-yw0-f182.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754465AbZLTT3k (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:29:40 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R9EVRK7BBR7RpoNn4EaIDGJKdl5KM+ubWlW8pmBAD2lS09se0Hy8l3Fi7t056QgiXj joH4tSz4hvjQ6KyewvcA/GVKmVfh470vOhyqsjh0njSFOMqb3ARfijSnYMIqtV3s88Xn 2yIivQw/xI5MiyTQxz33VtiRoxCoxmmqLNGeE= Message-ID: <4B2E7B21.4070907@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:29:37 -0600 From: Robert Hancock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091209 Fedora/3.0-4.fc12 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jidanni@jidanni.org CC: 561764@bugs.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, 561229@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#561764: some warnings fly off screen and are not saved in any file References: <87skb5zgri.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <87skb5zgri.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 12/20/2009 11:39 AM, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: > OK, via > $ zcat /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-trunk-686|strings|less > I think I found one of the messages I saw: > SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version > which is in /sbin/udevadm ... bug #561229 perhaps. > > However, what I'm saying is "how bad it is that there be any messages > that fly off the screen at boot and are not also 'remembered into some > log file' one can read later?". > > Either remember all messages into those /var/log/ files, or remember > none. Remembering 95% makes one think that they see all of them. > > There is some step so early in the boot process that recording has not > been turned on yet. That step is making error messages that fly off the > screen... with only one small laptop one is not going to be able to see these > messages. One should not be required to attach other equipment to see them. Not sure why this is CCed to LKML, the kernel isn't responsible for logging anything to files..