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From: Eric Blake <ebb9@byu.net>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: "Jean-Pierre André" <jean-pierre.andre@wanadoo.fr>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	"Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, ctrn3e8 <ctrn3e8@gmail.com>,
	bug-coreutils <bug-coreutils@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [fuse-devel] utimensat fails to update ctime
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:54:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B3212ED.4090208@byu.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87my1aevro.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>

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According to OGAWA Hirofumi on 12/22/2009 10:58 AM:
>> I suggest I port Miklos patch to fuse-lite soon,
>> and delay the low-level case (and microsecond
>> precision) until January. Does that suit your needs ?
> 
> Thanks. Sounds good. I'm not using ntfs-3g actually, I just bridged the
> bug report on lkml to others. Eric?

I'm also bridging the report from a coreutils user (now cc'd).  Since I
also don't use ntfs-3g, I'm hoping that ctrn3e8 will be able to help test
whether the latest patch to ntfs-3g makes a difference in properly setting
times.  To me, delaying precision while fixing UTIME_OMIT semantics is a
reasonable approach.

By the way, is there any reliable way, other than uname() and checking for
a minimum kernel version, to tell if all file systems will properly
support UTIME_OMIT?  For coreutils 8.3, we will be inserting a workaround
where instead of using UTIME_OMIT, we call fstatat() in advance of
utimensat() and pass the original timestamp down.  But it would be nice to
avoid the penalty of the extra stat if there were a reliable way to ensure
that, regardless of file system, the use of UTIME_OMIT will be honored.
After all, coreutils wants touch(1) to work regardless of how old the
user's kernel and file system drivers are.

- --
Don't work too hard, make some time for fun as well!

Eric Blake             ebb9@byu.net
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-23 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-18  5:38 utimensat fails to update ctime Eric Blake
2009-12-21  7:31 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-12-21 13:12   ` Eric Blake
2009-12-21 13:39     ` Eric Blake
2009-12-21 15:05       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-12-22  4:37         ` Eric Blake
2009-12-22  9:00           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-12-22  9:56             ` [fuse-devel] " Jean-Pierre André
2009-12-22 10:43               ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-12-22 12:07                 ` Jean-Pierre André
2009-12-22 13:00                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-12-22 13:30                   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-12-22 16:16                     ` Jean-Pierre André
2009-12-22 17:58                       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-12-23  9:43                         ` Jean-Pierre André
2009-12-23 11:08                           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-12-23 12:54                         ` Eric Blake [this message]
2009-12-23 19:23                           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
     [not found]                           ` <4B32B303.6070807@gmail.com>
2009-12-24  0:50                             ` Eric Blake
2009-12-23 14:28                         ` Jean-Pierre André
2009-12-22 12:34           ` Dave Chinner
2009-12-22 12:42             ` Eric Blake
2009-12-23  7:53               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-22 17:45         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-22 19:06           ` OGAWA Hirofumi

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