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From: Michael Breuer <mbreuer@majjas.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>,
	Berck Nash <flyboy@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:42:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B33EE40.1020402@majjas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091224142146.700e4ac8@nehalam>

On 12/24/2009 5:21 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:28:57 -0500
> Daniel Hazelton<dhazelton@enter.net>  wrote:
>
>    
>> On Thursday 24 December 2009 11:03:56 am Berck Nash wrote:
>>      
>>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>        
>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:52:10 -0700 "Berck E. Nash"<flyboy@gmail.com>
>>>>          
>> wrote:
>>      
>>>>> Since 2.6.32, I've been getting kernel panics under heavy network load
>>>>> (bittorrent usage).
>>>>>            
>>>> Let's cc the right list and developer.
>>>>
>>>> This is a 2.6.31->2.6.32 regression?
>>>>          
>>> I believe so.  Since it's intermittent and difficult to reproduce, it's
>>> possible (but unlikely) that I simply never triggered it under 2.6.31.
>>>        
>> This is far from new. I have seen this under 2.6.27 when at least one botnet
>> has been pointed at a server of mine and told to gain access. It has happened
>> four times in the last six to eight months - and I have no easy way to capture
>> the logs. But the oops that was posted looks very, very similar to what I've
>> seen.
>>
>> It's always an allocation error in the transmit path that leads to the panic.
>> Because this is a production machine that I do not have a way to take down and
>> do testing with I've not reported the problem before.
>>
>>      
> Even though I wrote/maintain the sky driver, I don't work for SysKonnect, and
> only have access to a limited set of information:
> the technical manuals (under NDA), and the vendor sk98lin driver. The sky2 driver
> imitates the receiver timeout of the sk98lin driver; other people have told me
> that the FIFO hardware implementation is buggy and when it gets full, it gets
> stuck. Probably the equivalent of a software FIFO where the developer forgets to
> reserve a slot so that head == tail can mean both empty and full!
>
> The workaround with a timer is prone to errors when traffic keeps going, also
> the vendor doesn't really provide clear instructions on how to unlock it. I do
> not have access to the hardware errata describing the problem. If I did a more
> minimal solution would be possible.
>
> The easiest advice is avoid sky2 chips with FIFO for any heavy traffic, the next
> advice is make sure receive flow control is enabled so that receiver doesn't
> get overrun. If tx timeouts are an issue use a rate limiter like TBF. Do not use
> the chip with 10 or 100 mbit since the transmitter is more prone to get overrun.
>    
For this particular issue, I'm only seeing problems when running at 1000 
mbit. 100 appears stable.
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-24 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-21 23:52 sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load Berck E. Nash
2009-12-22  0:09 ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-22 18:50   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-23 22:54     ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (new oops) Michael Breuer
2009-12-24  7:01       ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-24 19:18         ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-24 22:27           ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-25 16:28         ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-25 23:22           ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-26  3:23             ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-26 17:57               ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-26 20:37                 ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-26 22:05                   ` [PATCH] sky2: make sure ethernet header is in transmit skb Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-27  3:44                     ` David Miller
2009-12-27  4:11                       ` David Miller
2010-01-04  5:32                         ` David Miller
2010-01-04 16:40                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-04 17:02                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-05 23:07                         ` [PATCH] af_packet: Don't use skb after dev_queue_xmit() Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-05 23:16                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-05 23:29                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06  2:36                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06  7:22                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06  9:15                               ` [PATCH alt.2] " Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 14:49                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-06 19:40                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 19:49                               ` [PATCH] " Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 20:22                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 20:33                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 21:09                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 21:32                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 21:10                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-06 21:20                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 23:26                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  2:42                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  4:00                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  4:53                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-07  5:10                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  5:32                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  5:54                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  7:20                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  7:47                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07  7:55                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  8:21                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 15:03                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 17:56                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 18:17                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 15:05                                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:01                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 18:19                                                         ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:35                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 18:40                                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:43                                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:50                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 19:36                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 19:55                                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 20:22                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 23:11                                                                 ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-08  7:45                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-08 16:40                                                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-08 21:29                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-08 21:48                                                                         ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-08 22:02                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-09  4:45                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-09  5:44                                                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-09 12:28                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-09 18:34                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-13 20:39                                                                                 ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-13 21:09                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-13 21:16                                                                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-13 21:34                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-17 16:26                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-17 22:17                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-17 22:34                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-17 23:05                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-17 23:15                                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18  7:30                                                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 16:29                                                                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 20:46                                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 20:56                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 21:00                                                                                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-18 21:06                                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 21:24                                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 21:50                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 21:25                                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 21:39                                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 22:08                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 22:17                                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 22:47                                                                                                                 ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19  5:46                                                                                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19  8:41                                                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 15:28                                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-21 19:48                                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19 10:47                                                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 15:47                                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19 19:59                                                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 20:06                                                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19 20:29                                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 22:45                                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-20  1:01                                                                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-20  1:10                                                                                                                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-21 16:14                                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-21 16:50                                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-18 22:25                                                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 22:40                                                                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-27 17:03                   ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (new oops) Michael Breuer
2009-12-27 18:22                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-27 19:39                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 17:30                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-29 17:39                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 18:38                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 18:54                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 19:49                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-29 20:41                               ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  7:23                               ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  7:58                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 17:49                                   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 19:15                                     ` audit.c skb - tty race condition - was " Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 20:44                                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 21:15                                         ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 21:21                                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  7:59                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 15:40                                   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 18:10                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 18:37                                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-31 18:09                                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-31 18:24                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-01 17:42                                         ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-01 19:26                                           ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (tty NULL write) Michael Breuer
2010-01-01 20:34                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-02 21:42                                               ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 19:15           ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (new oops) Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-29 19:20             ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  8:07         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 15:36           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-22  0:52 ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load Daniel Hazelton
2009-12-24  6:58 ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-24 16:03   ` Berck Nash
2009-12-24 16:28     ` Daniel Hazelton
2009-12-24 22:21       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-24 22:42         ` Michael Breuer [this message]
2009-12-25  0:06           ` Daniel Hazelton
2009-12-24 16:10   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-24 16:16     ` Berck Nash
2009-12-24 16:26       ` Michael Breuer

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