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From: Michael Breuer <mbreuer@majjas.com>
To: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, flyboy@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] af_packet: Don't use skb after dev_queue_xmit()
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:39:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B54D50C.90608@majjas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100118212516.GE3157@del.dom.local>

On 1/18/2010 4:25 PM, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 03:56:45PM -0500, Michael Breuer wrote:
>    
>> On 1/18/2010 3:46 PM, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
>>      
>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:29:31AM -0500, Michael Breuer wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Ok - up on the two patches, no DMAR. Some early observations:
>>>>
>>>> 1. There's an early on MMAP oops (see below). This happens once, at
>>>> the completion of the transition to runlevel 5 (I've seen it
>>>> entering runlevel 3 as well). This does not recur when runlevels are
>>>> subsequently changed. I do not see this when running with DMAR
>>>> enabled.
>>>>          
>>> OK, you mentioned this oops (actually a warning only) happened during
>>> previous tests too.
>>>        
>> Yes - dk if it's significant or not. Only obvious difference between
>> DMAR and not.
>>      
> OK, let's try (as long as possible) if it can break so hard as with
> DMAR.
>
>    
>>>> 2. The dropped tx packet (DHCP) is a bit harder to recreate, but it
>>>> still happens.
>>>>          
>>> Btw, I guess you improved the test because you didn't mention it here,
>>> even after my explicit question?:
>>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/149171
>>>        
>> I had been focusing on the hangs - dhcp causing the initial crash
>> from December. After things stabilized with the af patch&  skb may
>> pull I started noticing the dropped tx packets. I reported the TX
>> loss on the 16th of January after confirming the issue.
>>      
> OK, but we need to establish some status quo after these patches
> before any new things (including DMAR), so I'd suggest trying this
> config really longer and harder.
>
>    
>>>> Interestingly, I initially saw no dropped packets
>>>> with ping - but after I went the DCHP route and eventually
>>>> reconnected, I could then cause dropped tx packets with ping. To
>>>> clarify:
>>>>
>>>> a) start throughput
>>>> b) ping device - no packet loss - this was true for the entire test run.
>>>> c) start throughput again
>>>> d) ping - no loss.
>>>> e) drop wifi on the device&   restart - first attempt worked. Repeat
>>>> attempt yielded the dropped DHCPOFFER packets. After about 6 tries,
>>>> the device reconnected to wifi.
>>>> f) ping again (after the reconnection) - packet loss rate about 80%.
>>>> g) simultaneously ping the wifi router - no loss.
>>>> h) After a while, packets are no longer dropped during ping. If I
>>>> manage to cause the dhcp drop again, and then ping after the device
>>>> finally reconnects, packet loss is significant for a while (maybe 30
>>>> sec to a minute). Then things return to normal. Note that the packet
>>>> loss continues even if the reported throughput drops to nil.
>>>> i) I can't cause the initial packet loss at RX rates below about
>>>> 30,000KBPS (as reported by nethogs).  At rates over 40 I can
>>>> reproduce this on this set of patches&   config about 60% of the
>>>> time.
>>>>          
>>> I forgot to mention, but did you try to check if these lost ping
>>> packets are "being dropped somewhere after wireshark sees them and
>>> before hitting the wire" like DHCPOFFER? Aren't there any sky2
>>> warnings/resets while this happens?
>>>
>>> Jarek P.
>>>        
>> Yes. There are no errors, and no statistics anywhere that I know to
>> look reflect the loss. Nothing in netstat; ethtool -S; etc. The only
>> loss reported is RX. The recent TX warnings/resets happened while
>> the machine was up for several days and while unattended and under
>> high RX load.
>>      
> Please check "tc -s qdisc" each time as well.
>
> Jarek P
>    

Some output from tc -s qdisc:

Before test:
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth0 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 35279532 bytes 291080 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth1 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 377308 bytes 3107 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0

During test (after initial observed packet loss):
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth0 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 123389424 bytes 1781403 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth1 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 400862 bytes 3250 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0

During test - while packet loss occuring:
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth0 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 150518974 bytes 2138312 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth1 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 422003 bytes 3432 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0

After the conclusion of the test:
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth0 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 244900497 bytes 3416350 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0
qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth1 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap  1 2 2 2 1 2 
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
  Sent 564380 bytes 4708 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
  rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0


During the test, 8.9GB received; 232.9MB sent).

I also connected a second device through the wifi router. I was able to 
ping that device w/o loss while DHCP packets were being dropped to the 
other connected device.

Last note: just moved to 2.6.32.4 from .3 for this test (from git).


  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-18 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-21 23:52 sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load Berck E. Nash
2009-12-22  0:09 ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-22 18:50   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-23 22:54     ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (new oops) Michael Breuer
2009-12-24  7:01       ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-24 19:18         ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-24 22:27           ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-25 16:28         ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-25 23:22           ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-26  3:23             ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-26 17:57               ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-26 20:37                 ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-26 22:05                   ` [PATCH] sky2: make sure ethernet header is in transmit skb Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-27  3:44                     ` David Miller
2009-12-27  4:11                       ` David Miller
2010-01-04  5:32                         ` David Miller
2010-01-04 16:40                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-04 17:02                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-05 23:07                         ` [PATCH] af_packet: Don't use skb after dev_queue_xmit() Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-05 23:16                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-05 23:29                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06  2:36                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06  7:22                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06  9:15                               ` [PATCH alt.2] " Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 14:49                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-06 19:40                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 19:49                               ` [PATCH] " Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 20:22                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 20:33                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 21:09                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-06 21:32                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 21:10                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-06 21:20                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-06 23:26                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  2:42                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  4:00                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  4:53                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-07  5:10                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  5:32                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  5:54                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  7:20                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  7:47                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07  7:55                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07  8:21                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 15:03                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 17:56                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 18:17                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 15:05                                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:01                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 18:19                                                         ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:35                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 18:40                                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:43                                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 18:50                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 19:36                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 19:55                                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-07 20:22                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-07 23:11                                                                 ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-08  7:45                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-08 16:40                                                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-08 21:29                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-08 21:48                                                                         ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-08 22:02                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-09  4:45                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-09  5:44                                                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-09 12:28                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-09 18:34                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-13 20:39                                                                                 ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-13 21:09                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-13 21:16                                                                                     ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-13 21:34                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-17 16:26                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-17 22:17                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-17 22:34                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-17 23:05                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-17 23:15                                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18  7:30                                                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 16:29                                                                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 20:46                                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 20:56                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 21:00                                                                                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-18 21:06                                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 21:24                                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 21:50                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 21:25                                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 21:39                                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer [this message]
2010-01-18 22:08                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 22:17                                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-18 22:47                                                                                                                 ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19  5:46                                                                                                                   ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19  8:41                                                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 15:28                                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-21 19:48                                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19 10:47                                                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 15:47                                                                                                                       ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19 19:59                                                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 20:06                                                                                                                           ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-19 20:29                                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-19 22:45                                                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-01-20  1:01                                                                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-20  1:10                                                                                                                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-21 16:14                                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-21 16:50                                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-18 22:25                                                                                                               ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-18 22:40                                                                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-27 17:03                   ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (new oops) Michael Breuer
2009-12-27 18:22                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-27 19:39                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 17:30                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-29 17:39                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 18:38                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 18:54                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 19:49                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-29 20:41                               ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  7:23                               ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  7:58                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 17:49                                   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 19:15                                     ` audit.c skb - tty race condition - was " Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 20:44                                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 21:15                                         ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 21:21                                           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  7:59                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 15:40                                   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30 18:10                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 18:37                                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-31 18:09                                       ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-31 18:24                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-01-01 17:42                                         ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-01 19:26                                           ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (tty NULL write) Michael Breuer
2010-01-01 20:34                                             ` Michael Breuer
2010-01-02 21:42                                               ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-29 19:15           ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load (new oops) Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-29 19:20             ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-30  8:07         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-30 15:36           ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-22  0:52 ` sky2 panic in 2.6.32.1 under load Daniel Hazelton
2009-12-24  6:58 ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-24 16:03   ` Berck Nash
2009-12-24 16:28     ` Daniel Hazelton
2009-12-24 22:21       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-24 22:42         ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-25  0:06           ` Daniel Hazelton
2009-12-24 16:10   ` Michael Breuer
2009-12-24 16:16     ` Berck Nash
2009-12-24 16:26       ` Michael Breuer

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