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From: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Dan Terpstra <terpstra@eecs.utk.edu>,
	Philip Mucci <mucci@eecs.utk.edu>,
	Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@us.ibm.com>, Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf_events: support for uncore a.k.a. nest units
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:28:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B57597B.1020402@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100120093555.GA24355@basil.fritz.box>



On 1/20/2010 1:35 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> Yes, I agree.  Also it's easy to construct a system design that doesn't
>> have a hierarchical topology.  A simple example would be a cluster of 32
>> nodes, each of which is connected to its 31 neighbors.  Perhaps for the
>
> I doubt it's needed or useful to describe all details of an interconnect.
>

At this point, I don't see a need for that level of detail either.

> If detailed distance information is needed a simple table like
> the SLIT table exported by ACPI would seem easier to handle.
>

Thanks for the pointer.  I didn't know about the ACPI SLIT and SRAT tables until 
your post.  Having had a quick look at them, I don't think they'd be that 
helpful to us, at least at this point.

> But at least some degree of locality (e.g. "local memory controller")
> would make sense.

I think locality could be determined by looking at the device tree.  For 
example, a memory controller for a particular processor chip would be a 
subdirectory of that chip.

>
>> purposes of just enumerating PMUs, a tree might be sufficient, but it's not
>> clear to me that it is mathematically sufficient for all topologies, not to
>> mention if it's intuitive enough to use.  For example,
>> highly-interconnected components might require that PMU leaf nodes be
>> duplicated in multiple branches, i.e. PMU paths might not be unique in some
>> topologies.
>
> We already have cyclical graphs in sysfs using symlinks. I'm not
> sure they are all that easy to parse/handle, but at least they
> can be described.

Good point.

-- 
Regards,

- Corey

Corey Ashford
Software Engineer
IBM Linux Technology Center, Linux Toolchain
Beaverton, OR
503-578-3507
cjashfor@us.ibm.com


  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-20 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-19 19:41 [RFC] perf_events: support for uncore a.k.a. nest units Corey Ashford
2010-01-20  0:44 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-20  1:49   ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-20  9:35     ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-20 19:28       ` Corey Ashford [this message]
2010-01-20 13:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20 21:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20 23:23     ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-21  7:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-21 19:13         ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-21 19:28           ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-27 10:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-27 19:50               ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 10:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-28 18:00                   ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 19:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-28 19:44                       ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 22:08                       ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-29  9:52                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 23:05                           ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-30  8:42                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-01 19:39                               ` Corey Ashford
2010-02-01 19:54                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21  8:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21  8:47     ` stephane eranian
2010-01-21  8:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21  9:16         ` stephane eranian
2010-01-21  9:43         ` stephane eranian
     [not found] ` <d3f22a1003290213x7d7904an59d50eb6a8616133@mail.gmail.com>
2010-03-30  7:42   ` Lin Ming
2010-03-30 16:49     ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-30 17:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-30 22:12         ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-31 14:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-31 14:13             ` stephane eranian
2010-03-31 15:49             ` Maynard Johnson
2010-03-31 17:50             ` Corey Ashford
2010-04-15 21:16         ` Gary.Mohr
2010-04-16 13:24           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19  9:08             ` Lin Ming
2010-04-19  9:27               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-20 11:55             ` Lin Ming
2010-04-20 12:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21  8:08                 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21  8:32                   ` stephane eranian
2010-04-21  8:39                     ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21  8:44                       ` stephane eranian
2010-04-21  9:42                         ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21  9:57                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 22:12                             ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 14:22                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 22:38                                 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 14:53                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-30 21:28       ` stephane eranian
2010-03-30 23:11         ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-31 13:43           ` stephane eranian

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