From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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DLE <dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Anders Kaseorg <andersk@ksplice.com>,
Tim Abbott <tabbott@ksplice.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip v3&10 07/18] x86: Add text_poke_smp for SMP cross modifying code
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:56:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B8DB3D0.6070408@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100303004814.GA15029@Krystal>
Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Masami Hiramatsu (mhiramat@redhat.com) wrote:
>> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>> * Masami Hiramatsu (mhiramat@redhat.com) wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> +
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * Cross-modifying kernel text with stop_machine().
>>>> + * This code originally comes from immediate value.
>>>> + */
>>>> +static atomic_t stop_machine_first;
>>>> +static int wrote_text;
>>>> +
>>>> +struct text_poke_params {
>>>> + void *addr;
>>>> + const void *opcode;
>>>> + size_t len;
>>>> +};
>>>> +
>>>> +static int __kprobes stop_machine_text_poke(void *data)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct text_poke_params *tpp = data;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (atomic_dec_and_test(&stop_machine_first)) {
>>>> + text_poke(tpp->addr, tpp->opcode, tpp->len);
>>>> + smp_wmb(); /* Make sure other cpus see that this has run */
>>>> + wrote_text = 1;
>>>> + } else {
>>>> + while (!wrote_text)
>>>> + smp_rmb();
>>>> + sync_core();
>>>
>>> Hrm, there is a problem in there. The last loop, when wrote_text becomes
>>> true, does not perform any smp_mb(), so you end up in a situation where
>>> cpus in the "else" branch may never issue any memory barrier. I'd rather
>>> do:
>>
>> Hmm, so how about this? :)
>> ---
>> } else {
>> do {
>> smp_rmb();
>> while (!wrote_text);
>> sync_core();
>> }
>> ---
>>
>
> The ordering we are looking for here are:
>
> Write-side: smp_wmb() orders text_poke stores before store to wrote_text.
>
> Read-side: order wrote_text load before subsequent execution of modified
> instructions.
>
> Here again, strictly speaking, wrote_text load is not ordered with respect to
> following instructions. So maybe it's fine on x86-TSO specifically, but I would
> not count on this kind of synchronization to work in the general case.
>
> Given the very small expected performance impact of this code path, I would
> recomment using the more solid/generic alternative below. If there is really a
> gain to get by creating this weird wait loop with strange memory barrier
> semantics, fine, otherwise I'd be reluctant to accept your proposals as
> obviously correct.
>
> If you really, really want to go down the route of proving the correctness of
> your memory barrier usage, I can recommend looking at the memory barrier formal
> verification framework I did as part of my thesis. But, really, in this case,
> the performance gain is just not there, so there is no point in spending time
> trying to prove this.
OK, that was my misunderstand. and cpu_relax() will be better for HT processors.
I'll update it according to your code below.
Thank you,
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu
>
>>>
>>> +static volatile int wrote_text;
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> +static int __kprobes stop_machine_text_poke(void *data)
>>> +{
>>> + struct text_poke_params *tpp = data;
>>> +
>>> + if (atomic_dec_and_test(&stop_machine_first)) {
>>> + text_poke(tpp->addr, tpp->opcode, tpp->len);
>>> + smp_wmb(); /* order text_poke stores before store to wrote_text */
>>> + wrote_text = 1;
>>> + } else {
>>> + while (!wrote_text)
>>> + cpu_relax();
>>> + smp_mb(); /* order wrote_text load before following execution */
>>> + }
>>>
>>> If you don't like the "volatile int" definition of wrote_text, then we
>>> should probably use the ACCESS_ONCE() macro instead.
>>
>> hm, yeah, volatile will be required.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> --
>> Masami Hiramatsu
>> e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Masami Hiramatsu
e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com
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2010-03-02 2:55 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-03 0:18 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-03 0:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-03 0:35 ` Masami Hiramatsu
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2010-02-25 13:34 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 03/18] kprobes: Introduce kprobes jump optimization Masami Hiramatsu
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2010-02-25 13:34 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 04/18] kprobes: Jump optimization sysctl interface Masami Hiramatsu
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2010-02-25 13:34 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 05/18] kprobes/x86: Boost probes when reentering Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:29 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:34 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 06/18] kprobes/x86: Cleanup save/restore registers Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:29 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:34 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 07/18] x86: Add text_poke_smp for SMP cross modifying code Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 15:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-02-26 3:53 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-03 0:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-03 0:56 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2010-02-25 19:29 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:34 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 08/18] kprobes/x86: Support kprobes jump optimization on x86 Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:29 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 09/18] kprobes: Add documents of jump optimization Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:30 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 10/18] perf probe: Do not show --line option without dwarf support Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:30 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 11/18] perf probe: Update perf probe document Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:30 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 12/18] perf probe: Fix bugs in line range finder Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:30 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 13/18] perf probe: Rename probe finder functions Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:31 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 14/18] perf probe: Use elfutils-libdw for analyzing debuginfo Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:31 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 15/18] perf probe: Use libdw callback routines Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:31 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:35 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 16/18] perf probe: Check function address range strictly in line finder Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:31 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:36 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 17/18] perf probe: show more lines after last line Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:32 ` [tip:perf/probes] perf probe: Show " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 13:36 ` [PATCH -tip v3&10 18/18] perf probe: Add lazy line matching support Masami Hiramatsu
2010-02-25 19:32 ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
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