From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755216Ab0CERmm (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:42:42 -0500 Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.24]:6471 "EHLO qw-out-2122.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753267Ab0CERml (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:42:41 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rqf7FCed9Pg3LYEDPb3RNQ4q9Z05nsB+HuWHfOXJkrB5Hi0DkCAKcNzb/Lyx+DIeg9 APRp9sHK0sfK/txsoTeV4gMLbCB9MKloqheOQULAy2h812T/ddUqEhqha8E12uaujnIL HU7kjOun+pAAUklQbQyvhmbFYisRxY2E4czzs= Message-ID: <4B91428E.6070006@garzik.org> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:42:38 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100301 Fedora/3.0.3-1.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Stone , David Miller , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, skeggsb@gmail.com, airlied@linux.ie, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org, dri-devel@lists.sf.net, mingo@elte.hu, torvalds@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3 References: <1267748927.3496.6.camel@nisroch> <20100305064955.GA6453@elte.hu> <20100305123834.0d9c6277@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100305.063718.211238119.davem@davemloft.net> <20100305151754.GB2505@tempa> In-Reply-To: <20100305151754.GB2505@tempa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 03/05/2010 10:17 AM, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:37:18AM -0800, David Miller wrote: >> If it effects such a large number of people, which this noveau thing >> does, it's entirely relevant to everyone. And the way it's breaking >> and making kernel development difficult for so many people matters to >> us. > > Maybe the lesson to be learned from all this is, 'if the developers > don't want something merged because they're not ready and forsee huge > problems in the future, actually listen to them instead of blindly > ramming it in regardless'? But maybe that's just me. That particular horse left the barn when Fedora shipped nouveau in a stable release, not when Linus merged it into his tree. Jeff