From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: john cooper <john.cooper@third-harmonic.com>,
Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, mtosatti@redhat.com,
zamsden@redhat.com
Subject: Re: use of setjmp/longjmp in x86 emulator.
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:00:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B936B27.1050207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100302072809.GS16909@redhat.com>
On 03/02/2010 09:28 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:13:32PM -0500, john cooper wrote:
>
>> Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Think about what happens if in the middle of
>>> instruction emulation some data from device emulated in userspace is
>>> needed. Emulator should be able to tell KVM that exit to userspace is
>>> needed and restart instruction emulation when data is available.
>>>
>> setjmp/longjmp are useful constructs in general but
>> IME are better suited for infrequent exceptions vs.
>> routine usage.
>>
> Exception condition during instruction emulation _is_
> infrequent.
Well, with mmio you'd expect it to happen every read access.
> Although setjmp/longjmp that I know about
> are routine usage. See QEMU TCG main loop or userspace
> thread libraries.
>
Agreed, nothing magical about it.
>> If the issue is finding some clean and regular way
>> to back out from (and possibly reeneter) logic
>> expressed within nested function invocations, have
>> you considered turning the problem inside out and
>> using a state machine approach?
>>
> I don't see how state machine will help. But the goal
> is not to rewrite emulator.c (this will no be excepted
> by kvm maintainers), but improve it gradually.
>
That is orthogonal. If we decide a state machine is the best
implementation, then we'll find a way to move over to that. However, I
don't think a state machine is a good representation considering some of
the code paths are very complicated and depend on a many memory accesses
(e.g. hardware task switches).
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-07 9:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-01 9:18 use of setjmp/longjmp in x86 emulator Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 12:45 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-03-01 12:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 13:17 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-03-01 13:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 19:13 ` john cooper
2010-03-02 7:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-07 9:00 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-08 23:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-09 6:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 16:13 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 17:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 18:39 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 18:47 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-01 19:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 19:18 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-01 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-01 23:34 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-02 8:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-02 8:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-07 9:04 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 0:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
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