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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: john cooper <john.cooper@third-harmonic.com>,
	Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	zamsden@redhat.com
Subject: Re: use of setjmp/longjmp in x86 emulator.
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:00:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B936B27.1050207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100302072809.GS16909@redhat.com>

On 03/02/2010 09:28 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:13:32PM -0500, john cooper wrote:
>    
>> Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Think about what happens if in the middle of
>>> instruction emulation some data from device emulated in userspace is
>>> needed. Emulator should be able to tell KVM that exit to userspace is
>>> needed and restart instruction emulation when data is available.
>>>        
>> setjmp/longjmp are useful constructs in general but
>> IME are better suited for infrequent exceptions vs.
>> routine usage.
>>      
> Exception condition during instruction emulation _is_
> infrequent.

Well, with mmio you'd expect it to happen every read access.

> Although setjmp/longjmp that I know about
> are routine usage. See QEMU TCG main loop or userspace
> thread libraries.
>    

Agreed, nothing magical about it.

>> If the issue is finding some clean and regular way
>> to back out from (and possibly reeneter) logic
>> expressed within nested function invocations, have
>> you considered turning the problem inside out and
>> using a state machine approach?
>>      
> I don't see how state machine will help. But the goal
> is not to rewrite emulator.c (this will no be excepted
> by kvm maintainers), but improve it gradually.
>    

That is orthogonal.  If we decide a state machine is the best 
implementation, then we'll find a way to move over to that.  However, I 
don't think a state machine is a good representation considering some of 
the code paths are very complicated and depend on a many memory accesses 
(e.g. hardware task switches).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-07  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01  9:18 use of setjmp/longjmp in x86 emulator Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 12:45 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-03-01 12:52   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 13:17     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-03-01 13:26       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 19:13         ` john cooper
2010-03-02  7:28           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-07  9:00             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-08 23:11               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-09  6:28                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 16:13 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 17:47   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 18:39     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 18:47       ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-01 19:03       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 19:18         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 22:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-01 22:56             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-01 23:34               ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 23:43                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-02  8:05                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-02  8:49               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-07  9:04                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08  0:08                   ` H. Peter Anvin

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