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From: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: 2.6.33: ftrace triggers soft lockup
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:32:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B94A816.4090608@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100305171614.GC5244@nowhere>

>>>>>> I am not sure if this is ftrace's fault, but it is ftrace who triggers
>>>>>> the soft lockup. On my machine, it is pretty easy, just run:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> echo function_graph > current_tracer
>>>>>>
>>>> I can't say that because I didn't try -rc6.
>>>>
>>> Sigh, 2.6.33-rc6 doesn't work, even 2.6.32 doesn't work...
>> So basically you are saying that the function_graph tracer, when enabled
>> has a high overhead? Well, unfortunately, that's expected.
>>
>> The function_graph tracer traces the start and end of every function. It
>> uses the same mechanism as function tracer to trace the start of the
>> function (mcount), but to trace the exit of a function, in the enter of
>> the function it hijacks the return address and replaces it to call a
>> trampoline. This trampoline will do the trace and then jump back to the
>> original return address.
>>
>> Doing this breaks branch prediction in the CPU, as the CPU uses call/ret
>> as part of its branch prediction analysis. So function graph tracing is
>> not just twice as slow as function tracing, it actually has a bigger
>> impact than that.
> 
> 
> It's true it has a high overhead, but not to the point of
> making the whole system unusable. We are supposed to be even
> far from that. I'm currently able to turn on the function graph
> tracer and use firefox without problems. It's just a bit slower
> but it's far from a visible starvation.
> 
> And Li seems to see the same thing.

Yes, and more than this. I can see segmentation fault while testing,
both my testing threads and kernel building threads that are running
at the same time can get segfault.

> For now I can not test, but I will try this week-end.
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-08  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-03  6:04 2.6.33: ftrace triggers soft lockup Américo Wang
2010-03-03 13:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-04  2:58   ` Américo Wang
2010-03-04  1:33 ` Li Zefan
2010-03-04  1:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-04  3:01   ` Américo Wang
2010-03-04  3:18     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-04  4:06       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-04  5:10       ` Américo Wang
2010-03-04  5:18         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-04 13:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-05  4:14   ` Américo Wang
2010-03-05  7:16     ` Américo Wang
2010-03-05 15:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-05 17:16         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-05 18:35           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-05 18:43             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-05 19:07               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-08  7:32           ` Li Zefan [this message]
2010-03-08 15:15             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-09  2:11               ` Li Zefan
2010-03-09  2:23                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-09  3:38                   ` Li Zefan
2010-03-12 19:20                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-12 21:38                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-13  2:07                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-13  5:37                       ` Américo Wang
2010-03-13  5:51                         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-14 16:55                         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-13 17:56                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-15  1:46                         ` Li Zefan
2010-03-15 14:39                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-15 16:16                             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-08  2:31         ` Américo Wang
2010-03-09  2:40           ` Américo Wang
2010-03-09  2:51             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-09  5:06               ` Américo Wang

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