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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Qing He <qing.he@intel.com>
Cc: Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kvm: Show guest system/user cputime in cpustat
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:26:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9B4C2D.90806@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100312085321.GA9075@ub-qhe2>

On 03/12/2010 10:53 AM, Qing He wrote:
>
>> When Qing(CCed) was working on nested VMX in the past, he found PV
>> vmread/vmwrite indeed works well(it would write to the virtual vmcs so vmwrite
>> can also benefit). Though compared to old machine(one our internal patch shows
>> improve more than 5%), NHM get less benefit due to the reduced vmexit cost.
>>
>>      
> One of the hurdles to PVize vmread/vmwrite is the fact that the memory
> layout of physical vmcs remains unknown. Of course it can use the custom
> vmcs layout utilized by nested virtualization, but that looks a little weird,
> since different nested virtualization implementation may create different
> custom layout.
>    

Note we must use a custom layout and cannot depend on the physical 
layout, due to live migration.  The layout becomes an ABI.

> I once used another approach to partially accelerate the vmread/vmwrite
> in nested virtualization case, which also gives good performance gain (around
> 7% on pre-nehalem, based on this, PV vmread/vmwrite had another 7%). That
> is to make a shortcut to handle EXIT_REASON_VM{READ,WRITE}, without
> even turning on the IF.
>    

Interesting.  That means our exit path is inefficient; it seems to imply 
half the time is spent outside the hardware vmexit path.

A quick profile (on non-Nehalem) shows many atomics and calls into the 
lapic, as well as update_cr8_intercept which is sometimes unnecessary; 
these could easily be optimized.

Definitely optimizing the non-paravirt path is preferred to adding more 
paravirtualization.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


      reply	other threads:[~2010-03-13  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-11  7:20 [PATCH] x86/kvm: Show guest system/user cputime in cpustat Sheng Yang
2010-03-11  7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11  7:46   ` Sheng Yang
2010-03-11  7:50     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11  8:21       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-11  9:17       ` Sheng Yang
2010-03-12  8:53         ` Qing He
2010-03-13  8:26           ` Avi Kivity [this message]

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