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* sys_umount() returns EBUSY when doing: sh -c "mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt;  umount /mnt"
@ 2010-03-13  8:56 Francis Moreau
  2010-03-14 16:21 ` Robert Hancock
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Francis Moreau @ 2010-03-13  8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel Mailing List

Hello

I've some shell scripts which try to find out the filesystem hosted by
a block device.

They basically do this:

    mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
    fs=$(stat -f -c %T $mount_point)
    umount /mnt

It happens to work but since an unknown upgrade (kernel, libs or tools
upgrade), umount(8) returns -EBUSY.

I found that it's actually the sys_umount() which return -EBUSY.

So the question, is this expected or is this a regression ?

If it's expected then which operation should I add between the
mount(8) and umount(8) to make the mount operation completely finish
(inside the kernel) so the next umount won't return -EBUSY ?

Oh I'm currently using the kernel shipped with F12: 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64

Thanks
-- 
Francis

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* Re: sys_umount() returns EBUSY when doing: sh -c "mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt;  umount /mnt"
  2010-03-13  8:56 sys_umount() returns EBUSY when doing: sh -c "mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt; umount /mnt" Francis Moreau
@ 2010-03-14 16:21 ` Robert Hancock
  2010-03-15 12:09   ` Francis Moreau
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Robert Hancock @ 2010-03-14 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Francis Moreau; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List

On 03/13/2010 02:56 AM, Francis Moreau wrote:
> Hello
>
> I've some shell scripts which try to find out the filesystem hosted by
> a block device.
>
> They basically do this:
>
>      mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
>      fs=$(stat -f -c %T $mount_point)
>      umount /mnt
>
> It happens to work but since an unknown upgrade (kernel, libs or tools
> upgrade), umount(8) returns -EBUSY.
>
> I found that it's actually the sys_umount() which return -EBUSY.
>
> So the question, is this expected or is this a regression ?
>
> If it's expected then which operation should I add between the
> mount(8) and umount(8) to make the mount operation completely finish
> (inside the kernel) so the next umount won't return -EBUSY ?

If no other process were involved I would say it's likely a bug. 
However, my guess is that some other process (HAL, something in GNOME, 
etc.) detects the mount and decides to start accessing the drive. Then 
when you immediately try to unmount, it fails because it's busy. I 
suspect if you try this in single-user mode with no unnecessary 
processes running you won't see this.

>
> Oh I'm currently using the kernel shipped with F12: 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64
>
> Thanks


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* Re: sys_umount() returns EBUSY when doing: sh -c "mount /dev/sdc1  /mnt; umount /mnt"
  2010-03-14 16:21 ` Robert Hancock
@ 2010-03-15 12:09   ` Francis Moreau
  2010-03-16 11:06     ` Petr Uzel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Francis Moreau @ 2010-03-15 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Hancock; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/13/2010 02:56 AM, Francis Moreau wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I've some shell scripts which try to find out the filesystem hosted by
>> a block device.
>>
>> They basically do this:
>>
>>     mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
>>     fs=$(stat -f -c %T $mount_point)
>>     umount /mnt
>>
>> It happens to work but since an unknown upgrade (kernel, libs or tools
>> upgrade), umount(8) returns -EBUSY.
>>
>> I found that it's actually the sys_umount() which return -EBUSY.
>>
>> So the question, is this expected or is this a regression ?
>>
>> If it's expected then which operation should I add between the
>> mount(8) and umount(8) to make the mount operation completely finish
>> (inside the kernel) so the next umount won't return -EBUSY ?
>
> If no other process were involved I would say it's likely a bug. However, my
> guess is that some other process (HAL, something in GNOME, etc.) detects the
> mount and decides to start accessing the drive. Then when you immediately
> try to unmount, it fails because it's busy. I suspect if you try this in
> single-user mode with no unnecessary processes running you won't see this.
>

You're right, I don't see this anymore if I'm booting in a single user mode.

So I need to find out how to wait until these other processes stop
accessing the drive.

Thanks
-- 
Francis

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* Re: sys_umount() returns EBUSY when doing: sh -c "mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt; umount /mnt"
  2010-03-15 12:09   ` Francis Moreau
@ 2010-03-16 11:06     ` Petr Uzel
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Petr Uzel @ 2010-03-16 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel Mailing List

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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 01:09:30PM +0100, Francis Moreau wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 03/13/2010 02:56 AM, Francis Moreau wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I've some shell scripts which try to find out the filesystem hosted by
> >> a block device.
> >>
> >> They basically do this:
> >>
> >>     mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
> >>     fs=$(stat -f -c %T $mount_point)
> >>     umount /mnt
> >>
> >> It happens to work but since an unknown upgrade (kernel, libs or tools
> >> upgrade), umount(8) returns -EBUSY.
> >>
> >> I found that it's actually the sys_umount() which return -EBUSY.
> >>
> >> So the question, is this expected or is this a regression ?
> >>
> >> If it's expected then which operation should I add between the
> >> mount(8) and umount(8) to make the mount operation completely finish
> >> (inside the kernel) so the next umount won't return -EBUSY ?
> >
> > If no other process were involved I would say it's likely a bug. However, my
> > guess is that some other process (HAL, something in GNOME, etc.) detects the
> > mount and decides to start accessing the drive. Then when you immediately
> > try to unmount, it fails because it's busy. I suspect if you try this in
> > single-user mode with no unnecessary processes running you won't see this.
> >

I have experienced something similar when I did addpart, immediately
followed by delpart. The delpart command failed with EBUSY, because
the first command triggered some hal subprocess that accessed the
device.

> You're right, I don't see this anymore if I'm booting in a single user mode.

You can try to put 'lsof /dev/sdc1' between mount and umount to see
what (if anything) is accessing the device.

> 
> So I need to find out how to wait until these other processes stop
> accessing the drive.

If it is hal what causes EBUSY, you could 'killall -SIGSTOP haldaemon'
before mount and SIGCONT after umount.


Petr

--
Petr Uzel, openSUSE Boosters Team
IRC: ptr_uzl @ freenode

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