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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mark Wielaard <mjw@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	systemtap <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
	DLE <dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 10/10] perf probe: Accessing members in data	structures
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:20:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA44CFC.2030205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100318032804.GA5045@nowhere>

Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 03:14:43PM -0400, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>> Mark Wielaard wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 18:06 -0400, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>>>> Support accessing members in the data structures. With this,
>>>> perf-probe accepts data-structure members(IOW, it now accepts
>>>> dot '.' and arrow '->' operators) as probe arguemnts.
>>>>
>>>> e.g.
>>>>
>>>>  ./perf probe --add 'schedule:44 rq->curr'
>>>>
>>>>  ./perf probe --add 'vfs_read file->f_op->read file->f_path.dentry'
>>>>
>>>> Note that '>' can be interpreted as redirection in command-line.
>>>
>>> If you find that a problem then you can do like SystemTap does and allow
>>> '.' in place of '->'. In the code you already use the
>>> perf_probe_arg_field ref flag only to check that the DIE gives you the
>>> same information. So you could just drop that and use any separator.
>>> Then you decide based on whether you see a DW_TAG_pointer_type. This
>>> gives the user some extra flexibility by letting them not having to care
>>> about specifying extra type information already available elsewhere.
>>
>> Thanks, when designing this feature, I considered it too.
>>
>> Since perf probe already support displaying source code by --line option,
>> users will read the probed code itself and try to probe it. In that case,
>> I think they naturally use '.' and '->' as they read (they might try to
>> copy & paste it).
>>
>> So, I think that it would be good to support both of '.' and '->' as
>> they are used in the code, because it will not confuse users.
>>
>> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> And lets people use what is common for them: expressions that follow
> C rules in the context.
> 
> And those who will be more familiar with perf probe will know they can
> use the simplified "." based scheme.

Hi Frederic, Steven,

BTW, currently perf trace can't parse these 'data structure' type
field yet.

e.g.
execute following commands;

./perf probe vfs_read 'file->f_mode'
./perf record -e probe:vfs_read -afR ls  -l
./perf trace
  Warning: Error: expected ';' but read '->'
  Warning: failed to read event format for vfs_read

Because perf trace expects that the field name should be a
C-variable name. Moreover, if perf probe supports array element,
it becomes more problematic, e.g. 'field:u8 array[8]'! oops!
what does the field contain? an array with 8 elements? or
8th element of 'array' array? :(

Should I suppose that trace event format only accept C-style
variable name for field?


Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu
e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-20  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-16 22:05 [PATCH -tip 00/10] perf-probe updates - data-structure support, etc Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:05 ` [PATCH -tip 01/10] perf tools: Introduce xzalloc() for detecting out of memory Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:27   ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Introduce xzalloc() for detecting out of memory conditions tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:05 ` [PATCH -tip 02/10] perf probe: Use wrapper functions Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:27   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:05 ` [PATCH -tip 03/10] perf probe: Move add-probe routine under util/ Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:28   ` [tip:perf/core] perf probe: Move add-probe routine to util/ tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:05 ` [PATCH -tip 04/10] perf probe: Rename session to param Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:28   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:05 ` [PATCH -tip 05/10] perf probe: Rename some die_get_* functions Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:28   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:05 ` [PATCH -tip 06/10] perf probe: Introduce die_find_child() function Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:29   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:06 ` [PATCH -tip 07/10] perf probe: Add --dry-run option Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:29   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:06 ` [PATCH -tip 08/10] perf probe: Introduce kprobe_trace_event and perf_probe_event Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:29   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:30   ` [tip:perf/core] perf probe: Fix !dwarf build tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2010-03-17 14:14     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-18 17:38   ` [tip:perf/core] perf events: Fix false positive build warning with older GCC's tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2010-03-18 20:03     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:06 ` [PATCH -tip 09/10] perf probe: List probes with line number and file name Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 11:29   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-16 22:06 ` [PATCH -tip 10/10] perf probe: Accessing members in data structures Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 10:25   ` Mark Wielaard
2010-03-17 19:14     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-18  3:28       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-20  4:20         ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2010-03-23 15:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-23 16:27           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-17 11:30   ` [tip:perf/core] perf probe: Add data structure member access support tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2010-03-17 10:34 ` [PATCH -tip 00/10] perf-probe updates - data-structure support, etc Ingo Molnar

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