From: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Dan Terpstra <terpstra@eecs.utk.edu>,
Philip Mucci <mucci@eecs.utk.edu>,
Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@us.ibm.com>, Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf_events: support for uncore a.k.a. nest units
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:12:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB27764.2060802@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1269969305.5258.479.camel@laptop>
On 3/30/2010 10:15 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
-- my comments snipped --
>
> Right, I've got some definite ideas on how to go here, just need some
> time to implement them.
>
> The first thing that needs to be done is get rid of all the __weak
> functions (with exception of perf_callchain*, since that really is arch
> specific).
>
> For hw_perf_event_init() we need to create a pmu registration facility
> and lookup a pmu_id, either passed as an actual id found in sysfs or an
> open file handle from sysfs (the cpu pmu would be pmu_id 0 for backwards
> compat).
>
> hw_perf_disable/enable() would become struct pmu functions and
> perf_disable/enable need to become per-pmu, most functions operate on a
> specific event, for those we know the pmu and hence can call the per-pmu
> version. (XXX find those sites where this is not true).
This sounds like a good idea. Right now for the Wire-Speed processor, we have a
loop that goes through all of the nest PMU's and calls their respective per-pmu
functions.
>
> Then we can move to context, yes I think we want new context for new
> PMUs, otherwise we get very funny RR interleaving problems. My idea was
> to move find_get_context() into struct pmu as well, this allows you to
> have per-pmu contexts.
Yes, I think it makes a lot of sense, so that there's not some sort of fixed
association of pmu contexts to cpu contexts, for example.
> Initially I'd not allow per-pmu-per-task contexts
> because then things like perf_event_task_sched_out() would get rather
> complex.
Definitely. I don't think it makes sense to have per-task context on
nest/uncore PMUs. At least we haven't found any justification for it.
>
> For RR we can move away from perf_event_task_tick and let the pmu
> install a (hr)timer for this on their own.
This is necessary I think, because of the access time for some of the PMU's. I
wonder though if it should, perhaps optionally, be off-loaded to a high-priority
task to do the switching so that access latency to the PMU can be controlled.
As I mentioned when we met, some of the Wire-Speed processor nest PMU control
registers are accessed via SCOM, which is an internal, 200 MHz serial bus. We
are being quoted ~525 SCOM bus ticks to do a PMU control register access, which
comes out to about 2.5 microseconds. If you figure 5 accesses to rotate the
events on a PMU, that's a minimum of 12.5 microseconds.
>
> I've been planning to implement this for more than a week now, its just
> that other stuff keeps getting in the way.
>
Well, it's not as if this is a trivial task either :)
- Corey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-30 22:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-19 19:41 [RFC] perf_events: support for uncore a.k.a. nest units Corey Ashford
2010-01-20 0:44 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-20 1:49 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-20 9:35 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-20 19:28 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-20 13:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20 21:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20 23:23 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-21 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-21 19:13 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-21 19:28 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-27 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-27 19:50 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-28 18:00 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 19:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-28 19:44 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 22:08 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-29 9:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 23:05 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-30 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-01 19:39 ` Corey Ashford
2010-02-01 19:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 8:47 ` stephane eranian
2010-01-21 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 9:16 ` stephane eranian
2010-01-21 9:43 ` stephane eranian
[not found] ` <d3f22a1003290213x7d7904an59d50eb6a8616133@mail.gmail.com>
2010-03-30 7:42 ` Lin Ming
2010-03-30 16:49 ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-30 17:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-30 22:12 ` Corey Ashford [this message]
2010-03-31 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-31 14:13 ` stephane eranian
2010-03-31 15:49 ` Maynard Johnson
2010-03-31 17:50 ` Corey Ashford
2010-04-15 21:16 ` Gary.Mohr
2010-04-16 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 9:08 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-19 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-20 11:55 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-20 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 8:08 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 8:32 ` stephane eranian
2010-04-21 8:39 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 8:44 ` stephane eranian
2010-04-21 9:42 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 22:12 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 22:38 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 14:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-30 21:28 ` stephane eranian
2010-03-30 23:11 ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-31 13:43 ` stephane eranian
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