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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "lkml, " <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sdietrich@novell.com>,
	Peter Morreale <pmorreale@novell.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:20:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB4ABBB.4000909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB3D90C.3030108@us.ibm.com>

On 04/01/2010 02:21 AM, Darren Hart wrote:
> I'm looking at some adaptive spinning with futexes as a way to help 
> reduce the dependence on sched_yield() to implement userspace 
> spinlocks. Chris, I included you in the CC after reading your comments 
> regarding sched_yield() at kernel summit and I thought you might be 
> interested.
>
> I have an experimental patchset that implements FUTEX_LOCK and 
> FUTEX_LOCK_ADAPTIVE in the kernel and use something akin to 
> mutex_spin_on_owner() for the first waiter to spin. What I'm finding 
> is that adaptive spinning actually hurts my particular test case, so I 
> was hoping to poll people for context regarding the existing adaptive 
> spinning implementations in the kernel as to where we see benefit. 
> Under which conditions does adaptive spinning help?
>
> I presume locks with a short average hold time stand to gain the most 
> as the longer the lock is held the more likely the spinner will expire 
> its timeslice or that the scheduling gain becomes noise in the 
> acquisition time. My test case simple calls "lock();unlock()" for a 
> fixed number of iterations and reports the iterations per second at 
> the end of the run. It can run with an arbitrary number of threads as 
> well. I typically run with 256 threads for 10M iterations.
>
>          futex_lock: Result: 635 Kiter/s
> futex_lock_adaptive: Result: 542 Kiter/s

A lock(); unlock(); loop spends most of its time with the lock held or 
contended.  Can you something like this:


    lock();
    for (i = 0; i < 1000; ++i)
         asm volatile ("" : : : "memory");
    unlock();
    for (i = 0; i < 10000; ++i)
         asm volatile ("" : : : "memory");

This simulates a lock hold ratio of 10% with the lock hold time 
exceeding the acquisition time.  Will be interesting to lower both loop 
bounds as well.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-01 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-31 23:21 RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions Darren Hart
2010-03-31 23:35 ` Roland Dreier
2010-04-01  2:03   ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 17:02     ` Chris Wright
2010-03-31 23:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-04-01  0:17   ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-01  2:25     ` Darren Hart
2010-04-03 18:00       ` john cooper
2010-04-05 14:06         ` Darren Hart
2010-04-03 17:51     ` john cooper
2010-04-01  2:13   ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01  2:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-04-01  5:15       ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 12:46         ` Gregory Haskins
2010-04-04  1:50       ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-04 15:06         ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-05 14:10         ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01  2:10 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 14:04   ` Chris Mason
2010-04-01 14:20 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-01 15:54   ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 16:10     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 17:10       ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 17:15         ` Avi Kivity

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