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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [COUNTERPATCH] mm: avoid overflowing preempt_count() in mmu_take_all_locks()
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:02:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB4C3AB.1060100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100401155456.GR5825@random.random>

On 04/01/2010 06:54 PM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
>>> The only single reason I'd go for mutexes would be to accommodate
>>> XPMEM requirements once and for all, no other reason.
>>>
>>>        
>> There is also a minor benefit for kvm.  Reduced latency over large mmu
>> operations; code simplification (we now have some
>> copy_from_user_inatomic() that could be simplified).
>>      
> Where exactly is KVM taking these locks?

Not these locks, but if we go all the way and make mmu notifiers 
sleepable, we can convert mmu_lock to a mutex.

> KVM should only call into
> GUP, and GUP itself won't iterate over rmaps either. GUP just walks
> the host pagetables and trigger page faults if the pages aren't
> mapped.

We'll probably deadlock then, gup -> change_pte notifier -> mmu_lock.  
But we can probably work around it.

> I don't see how you're going to remove
> copy_from_user_inatomic() given we don't have vmas and other metadata
> to take those locks. Maybe we can stop calling GUP but even if we take
> the anon_vma mutex/semaphore I think it won't still prevent munmap to
> drop the anon pages from under us (even if it'd stop the VM to unmap
> them through rmap). To freeze the mapping one would need to take
> mmap_sem in write mode in addition to the anon_vma mutex/sem which is
> unlikely a win compared to just gup+copy_from_user_inatomic. So I
> don't see immediate benefits for KVM but maybe I'm missing something
> of course!
>    

I meant replace c_f_u_inatomic() by c_f_u() (that's why the benefit is 
minor - we only simplify the failure path).  Sorry for being unclear.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-01 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-30 17:36 [PATCH] increase PREEMPT_BITS to 12 to avoid overflow when starting KVM Rik van Riel
2010-03-30 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-30 18:05   ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-30 18:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01  9:40 ` [COUNTERPATCH] mm: avoid overflowing preempt_count() in mmu_take_all_locks() Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 10:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 11:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-01 11:13       ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 11:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 11:19           ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 15:36           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 15:39             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 15:54               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 16:02                 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-01 16:12                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 11:17         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 11:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 11:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 11:47               ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 15:42               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 15:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 15:56                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 16:07                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 16:32                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 16:00                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 15:51                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 15:56                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 16:06                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 16:15                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-01 16:36                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 17:02                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-01 16:08                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 16:14                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-01 16:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 16:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 16:18                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 16:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 16:49                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-01 17:04                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 14:16       ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-01 15:32       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-01 15:37         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 11:09     ` Avi Kivity

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