linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "lkml, " <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sdietrich@novell.com>,
	Peter Morreale <pmorreale@novell.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:15:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB4D4A1.7040905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB4D36A.5080204@us.ibm.com>

On 04/01/2010 08:10 PM, Darren Hart wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 04/01/2010 06:54 PM, Darren Hart wrote:
>>>> A lock(); unlock(); loop spends most of its time with the lock held 
>>>> or contended.  Can you something like this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    lock();
>>>>    for (i = 0; i < 1000; ++i)
>>>>         asm volatile ("" : : : "memory");
>>>>    unlock();
>>>>    for (i = 0; i < 10000; ++i)
>>>>         asm volatile ("" : : : "memory");
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Great idea. I'll be doing a more rigorous investigation on this of 
>>> course, but I thought I'd share the results of just dumping this 
>>> into the testcase:
>>>
>>> # ./futex_lock -i10000000
>>> futex_lock: Measure FUTEX_LOCK operations per second
>>>     Arguments: iterations=10000000 threads=256 adaptive=0
>>> Result: 420 Kiter/s
>>> lock calls:      9999872
>>> lock syscalls:   665824 (6.66%)
>>> unlock calls:    9999872
>>> unlock syscalls: 861240 (8.61%)
>>>
>>> # ./futex_lock -a -i10000000
>>> futex_lock: Measure FUTEX_LOCK operations per second
>>>     Arguments: iterations=10000000 threads=256 adaptive=1
>>> Result: 426 Kiter/s
>>> lock calls:      9999872
>>> lock syscalls:   558787 (5.59%)
>>> unlock calls:    9999872
>>> unlock syscalls: 603412 (6.03%)
>>>
>>> This is the first time I've seen adaptive locking have an advantage! 
>>> The second set of runs showed a slightly greater advantage. Note 
>>> that this was still with spinners being limited to one.
>>
>> Question - do all threads finish at the same time, or wildly 
>> different times?
>
> I'm not sure, I can add some fairness metrics to the test that will 
> help characterize how that's working. My suspicion is that there will 
> be several threads that don't make any progress until the very end - 
> since adaptive spinning is an "unfair" locking technique.
>

Well, if the amount of unfairness differs between the tests (unfair 
unfairness?) then you may see results that are not directly related to 
spin vs yield.  You need to make the test more self-regulating so the 
results are more repeatable (yet not make it a round-robin test).

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


      reply	other threads:[~2010-04-01 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-31 23:21 RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions Darren Hart
2010-03-31 23:35 ` Roland Dreier
2010-04-01  2:03   ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 17:02     ` Chris Wright
2010-03-31 23:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-04-01  0:17   ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-01  2:25     ` Darren Hart
2010-04-03 18:00       ` john cooper
2010-04-05 14:06         ` Darren Hart
2010-04-03 17:51     ` john cooper
2010-04-01  2:13   ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01  2:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-04-01  5:15       ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 12:46         ` Gregory Haskins
2010-04-04  1:50       ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-04 15:06         ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-05 14:10         ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01  2:10 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 14:04   ` Chris Mason
2010-04-01 14:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 15:54   ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 16:10     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 17:10       ` Darren Hart
2010-04-01 17:15         ` Avi Kivity [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4BB4D4A1.7040905@redhat.com \
    --to=avi@redhat.com \
    --cc=chris.mason@oracle.com \
    --cc=chrisw@sous-sol.org \
    --cc=dvhltc@us.ibm.com \
    --cc=eric.dumazet@gmail.com \
    --cc=ghaskins@novell.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=pmorreale@novell.com \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=sdietrich@novell.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).