From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
"Peter W. Morreale" <pmorreale@novell.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sdietrich@novell.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
John Cooper <john.cooper@third-harmonic.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/6][RFC] futex: FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:30:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BBB377B.2020204@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BBA6F0B.2060008@us.ibm.com>
On 04/06/2010 02:15 AM, Darren Hart wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>>>> An interesting (but perhaps difficult to achieve) optimization
>>>> would be to spin in userspace.
>>>
>>> I couldn't think of a lightweight way to determine when the owner
>>> has been scheduled out in userspace. Kernel assistance is required.
>>> You could do this on the schedule() side of things, but I figured
>>> I'd get some strong pushback if I tried to add a hook into
>>> descheduling that flipped a bit in the futex value stating the owner
>>> was about to deschedule(). Still, that might be something to explore.
>>
>> In the futex value it's hopeless (since a thread can hold many locks),
>
> It can, but there is a futex value per lock. If the task_struct had a
> list of held futex locks (as it does for pi futex locks) the
> deschedule() path could walk that and mark the FUTEX_OWNER_SLEEPING bit.
>
You don't want the context switch path to walk a list whose length is
user controlled.
>> but I don't think it's unreasonable to set a bit in the thread local
>> storage area. The futex format would then need to be extended to
>> contain a pointer to this bit.
>
> This appears to be 1 bit per task instead of 1 bit per lock.
Yes. O(1) on context switch instead of O(n).
> Also, the value is thread-specific... so how would a potential waiter
> be able to determine if the owner of a particular lock was running or
> not with this method? ... maybe I'm missing some core bit about
> TLS... are you talking about pthread_key_create() and
> pthread_getspecific() ?
The lock would need to contain a pointer to the owning task. Could be
set with cmpxchg{8,16}b on x86.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-06 13:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-05 20:23 [PATCH V2 0/6][RFC] futex: FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] futex: replace fshared and clockrt with combined flags Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] futex: add futex_q static initializer Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] futex: refactor futex_lock_pi_atomic Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] futex: Add FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning Darren Hart
2010-04-06 16:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-07 17:26 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-07 19:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-08 3:25 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-08 23:10 ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-09 5:41 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-09 13:13 ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] futex: handle timeout inside adaptive lock spin Darren Hart
2010-04-06 8:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-07 17:31 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-07 18:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2010-04-07 23:15 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] futex: Add aggressive adaptive spinning argument to FUTEX_LOCK Darren Hart
2010-04-08 5:58 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:48 ` [PATCH V2^W V4 0/6][RFC] futex: FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning Darren Hart
2010-04-05 21:15 ` [PATCH V2 " Avi Kivity
2010-04-05 21:54 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 22:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-05 22:59 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-06 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 13:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 13:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 16:53 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 13:51 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 15:28 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-06 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 16:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-07 6:18 ` john cooper
2010-04-08 3:33 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-09 5:52 ` john cooper
2010-04-06 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 18:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 16:44 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 17:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-10 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-10 23:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-06 19:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 20:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-06 23:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 23:36 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-07 6:08 ` drepper
2010-04-08 3:41 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-08 4:29 ` drepper
2010-04-07 5:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 21:22 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 23:15 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 23:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-04-06 13:30 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-06 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 14:47 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-06 14:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 15:33 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-06 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
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