From: Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>
To: drepper@gmail.com
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:46:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC2A58A.7070801@mozilla.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g7wssj9j6ukus9yti3UYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
On 04/11/2010 09:43 PM, drepper@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 19:27, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> wrote:
>> Yes, every binary/library starts with this 512b read. It is requested
>> by ld.so/ld-linux.so, and will trigger a 4-page readahead. This is not
>> good readahead. I wonder if ld.so can switch to mmap read for the
>> first read, in order to trigger a larger 128kb readahead.
>
> We first need to know the sizes of the segments and their location in
> the binary. The binaries we use now are somewhat well laid out. The
> read-only segment starts at offset 0 etc. But this doesn't have to be
> the case. The dynamic linker has to be generic. Also, even if we
> start mapping at offset zero, now much to map? The file might contain
> debug info which must not be mapped. Therefore the first read loads
> enough of the headers to make all of the decisions. Yes, we could do
> a mmap of one page instead of the read. But that's more expansive in
> general, isn't it?
Can this not be cached for prelinked files? I think it is reasonable to
optimize the gnu dynamic linker to optimize for an optimal layout
produced by gnu tools of the same generation.
Taras
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-12 4:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-05 22:43 Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup Taras Glek
2010-04-05 23:17 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-05 23:52 ` Roland Dreier
2010-04-06 22:09 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06 9:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 21:57 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06 22:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 22:39 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07 2:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 2:54 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07 4:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 7:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 7:33 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 7:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 8:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 8:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 7:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-08 17:44 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-12 2:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12 3:25 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-12 4:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12 4:43 ` drepper
2010-04-12 4:46 ` Taras Glek [this message]
2010-04-12 4:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12 8:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-15 23:21 ` Zan Lynx
2010-04-15 20:42 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-16 11:41 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 12:23 ` Theodore Tso
2010-04-16 12:23 ` Theodore Tso
2010-04-16 0:41 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-15 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-16 2:37 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-16 11:40 ` Andi Kleen
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