From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757953Ab0ESLza (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2010 07:55:30 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:20558 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751788Ab0ESLz2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2010 07:55:28 -0400 Message-ID: <4BF3D17F.5000605@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:54:39 -0300 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090609) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ingo Molnar CC: Borislav Petkov , "Eric W. Biederman" , Andi Kleen , "Luck, Tony" , Hidetoshi Seto , "Young, Brent" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Matt Domsch , Doug Thompson , Joe Perches , "bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" , Linux Edac Mailing List Subject: Re: Hardware Error Kernel Mini-Summit References: <4BF2392A.9040409@jp.fujitsu.com> <4BF2C3D1.10009@redhat.com> <1274204560.17703.82.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> <20100518185305.GA23921@elte.hu> <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53C61D1C57@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com> <20100518191802.GG25224@aftab> <20100518222832.GJ22675@basil.fritz.box> <20100519064619.GA30320@aftab> <20100519070919.GA9618@elte.hu> In-Reply-To: <20100519070919.GA9618@elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Ingo Molnar wrote: > Regarding dmesg, there's a WIP patch on lkml that > integrates printks into this framework as well - makes > each printk also available as a special string event. > > That way a tool can have both programmatic access to > printk output (without having to interact with the syslog > buffer itself) - together with all the other structured > log sources, while humans can also see what is happening. Some system admins prefer to have everything on dmesg, as they can enable a serial console, and catch the logs remotely, even when the machine crashes for example due to a hardware failure. So, IMHO, one feature that the perf event needs is the capability to report errors via a serial console also, or a mechanism where some events are sent via dmesg. -- Cheers, Mauro