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From: "Török Edwin" <edwintorok@gmail.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Jeffrey Merkey <jeffmerkey@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: EXT3 File System Corruption 2.6.34
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:33:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C0E469E.7030808@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7707881C-9879-4531-8DE9-EEED2F4534E5@mit.edu>

On 06/08/2010 02:14 PM, Theodore Tso wrote:
> 
> If you pull the plug without fsyncing the file, you will end up with a zero-length file -- or possibly no file at all, even with data=ordered.  If you really want to preserve data after pulling the power cord immediately after a write were the application hasn't done an fsync() or a sync() call, you can mount the file system with the mount option -o sync --- but then the performance will be horrible.
> 
> It's all a tradeoff of what you think is important....
> 

I think you should either get the old file, or the new file (if you
don't fsync), and not some random data from another file.
The manual entry for data=writeback only says that you may get old data
after a crash/recovery, not that you may get old/new data from *another*
file.

On the other hand I didn't specify any mount options, and I got
data=ordered. So is data=ordered the default or not?
Or does it depend whether you use ext3 or ext4 driver for ext3?

/etc/fstab has:
/dev/md3        /               ext3    noatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1

and my ext* related config options:
# CONFIG_EXT2_FS is not set
# CONFIG_EXT3_FS is not set
CONFIG_EXT4_FS=y
CONFIG_EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23=y
CONFIG_EXT4_FS_XATTR=y
# CONFIG_EXT4_FS_POSIX_ACL is not set
# CONFIG_EXT4_FS_SECURITY is not set
# CONFIG_EXT4_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_BLOCK_EXT_DEVT is not set

So I use the ext4 driver for the ext3 partition (I intended to convert
it to ext4 at some point, but didn't have time to do so yet).

This is with 2.6.34-00179-gdebb980 (drm-radeon-testing, which is
basically 2.6.34 + some radeon specific stuff).

Best regards,
--Edwin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-07 20:45 EXT3 File System Corruption 2.6.34 Jeffrey Merkey
2010-06-07 20:59 ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTik1T2nJxsoK9UGIVy6q6pfSxniFfJXJY0InmuUh@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-07 23:55     ` Fwd: " Jeffrey Merkey
2010-06-08  1:10       ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTilrmEnLrxRSYNnwr8vFaZi7R9U5vY39NmBWUEMy@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-08  1:55           ` Fwd: " Jeffrey Merkey
2010-06-08  2:05             ` Eric Sandeen
2010-06-10 21:04             ` Bill Davidsen
2010-06-11 16:23               ` Jeffrey Merkey
2010-06-08  1:57           ` Jeffrey Merkey
     [not found]           ` <C4177A0B-9A74-40E6-9A58-64418034232C@sandeen.net>
     [not found]             ` <AANLkTinzZkN9agekI5eqzA9hERsghI7yDJyAy1O755dr@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-08  2:14               ` Jeffrey Merkey
2010-06-08 11:14                 ` Theodore Tso
2010-06-08 13:33                   ` Török Edwin [this message]
2010-06-09  0:49                     ` david
     [not found]               ` <4C0DA955.7020802@sandeen.net>
2010-06-08  2:37                 ` Jeffrey Merkey
2010-06-08  5:40                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-06-08 14:44                     ` Jeffrey Merkey
2010-06-07 21:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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