From: Brian Bloniarz <bmb@athenacr.com>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
Jef Driesen <jefdriesen@telenet.be>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Slow pty's (was Re: libdivecomputer interfaces?)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:25:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C116652.8010408@athenacr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100610181042.GA19210@puku.stupidest.org>
On 06/10/2010 02:10 PM, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> (sorry if this reponse isn't on target, i was just pointed to this
> thread a few minutes ago)
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:25:36AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>> I thought we long since (ie back last fall) fixed the latency
>> problems with pty's, but there does seem to be something very fishy
>> going on there still.
>
> this might not be related, but i have slow serial ports with NOHZ that
> goes away when i revert 39c0cbe2150cbd848a25ba6cdb271d1ad46818ad.
Unrelated or not, I think Chris is right about this. Somewhere before
-rc1, the emulated serial console on my KVM instance became slow
to echo input. I just tested with the commit reverted and it's
back to normal.
> commit 39c0cbe2150cbd848a25ba6cdb271d1ad46818ad
> Author: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
> Date: Thu Mar 11 17:17:13 2010 +0100
>
> sched: Rate-limit nohz
>
> Entering nohz code on every micro-idle is costing ~10% throughput for netperf
> TCP_RR when scheduling cross-cpu. Rate limiting entry fixes this, but raises
> ticks a bit. On my Q6600, an idle box goes from ~85 interrupts/sec to 128.
>
> The higher the context switch rate, the more nohz entry costs. With this patch
> and some cycle recovery patches in my tree, max cross cpu context switch rate is
> improved by ~16%, a large portion of which of which is this ratelimiting.
>
> and looking at the only two interesting hunks it's not clear why:
>
> +int nohz_ratelimit(int cpu)
> +{
> + struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
> + u64 diff = rq->clock - rq->nohz_stamp;
> +
> + rq->nohz_stamp = rq->clock;
> +
> + return diff < (NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ) >> 1;
> +}
>
> + if (nohz_ratelimit(cpu))
> + goto end;
> +
>
> network latnecy is fine, and if i create lots of wakeups (network IO
> is fine) then the serial port latency is noticable
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-10 22:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-10 17:25 Slow pty's (was Re: libdivecomputer interfaces?) Linus Torvalds
2010-06-10 18:07 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-06-10 18:10 ` Chris Wedgwood
2010-06-10 22:25 ` Brian Bloniarz [this message]
2010-06-10 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-16 15:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-06-16 15:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-06-17 6:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-06-17 7:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-06-17 10:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-06-17 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-17 14:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-17 14:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-06-17 14:56 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-06-17 16:02 ` [PATCH] nohz: Fix nohz ratelimit Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-17 17:39 ` [tip:timers/urgent] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-12 18:45 ` Slow pty's (was Re: libdivecomputer interfaces?) Jef Driesen
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