From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] rework KVM mmu_shrink() code
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:38:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C188D8B.40508@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100615135518.BC244431@kernel.beaverton.ibm.com>
On 06/15/2010 04:55 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> This is a big RFC for the moment. These need a bunch more
> runtime testing.
>
> --
>
> We've seen contention in the mmu_shrink() function.
First of all, that's surprising. I tried to configure the shrinker so
it would stay away from kvm unless memory was really tight. The reason
is that kvm mmu pages can cost as much as 1-2 ms of cpu time to build,
perhaps even more, so we shouldn't drop them lightly.
It's certainly a neglected area that needs attention, though.
> This patch
> set reworks it to hopefully be more scalable to large numbers
> of CPUs, as well as large numbers of running VMs.
>
> The patches are ordered with increasing invasiveness.
>
> These seem to boot and run fine. I'm running about 40 VMs at
> once, while doing "echo 3> /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches", and
> killing/restarting VMs constantly.
>
Will drop_caches actually shrink the kvm caches too? If so we probably
need to add that to autotest since it's a really good stress test for
the mmu.
> Seems to be relatively stable, and seems to keep the numbers
> of kvm_mmu_page_header objects down.
>
That's no necessarily a good thing, those things are expensive to
recreate. Of course, when we do need to reclaim them, that should be
efficient.
We also do a very bad job of selecting which page to reclaim. We need
to start using the accessed bit on sptes that point to shadow page
tables, and then look those up and reclaim unreferenced pages sooner.
With shadow paging there can be tons of unsync pages that are basically
unused and can be reclaimed at no cost to future runtime.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-16 8:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-15 13:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] rework KVM mmu_shrink() code Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] abstract kvm x86 mmu->n_free_mmu_pages Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 8:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] rename x86 kvm->arch.n_alloc_mmu_pages Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] replace x86 kvm n_free_mmu_pages with n_used_mmu_pages Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 14:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-06-16 15:42 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] create aggregate kvm_total_used_mmu_pages value Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 8:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 15:06 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-17 8:43 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 16:55 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-17 8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] break out some mmu_skrink() code Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] remove kvm_freed variable Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] make kvm_get_kvm() more robust Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] reduce kvm_lock hold times in mmu_skrink() Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] make kvm mmu shrinker more aggressive Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 15:25 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-17 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-18 15:49 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-20 8:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 16:32 ` Dave Hansen
2010-07-22 4:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-22 5:36 ` Dave Hansen
2010-07-22 5:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 8:38 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-06-16 15:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] rework KVM mmu_shrink() code Dave Hansen
2010-06-17 8:40 ` Avi Kivity
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