From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, awalls@radix.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
jeff@garzik.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
rusty@rustcorp.com.au, cl@linux-foundation.org,
dhowells@redhat.com, arjan@linux.intel.com,
johannes@sipsolutions.net, oleg@redhat.com, axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: Overview of concurrency managed workqueue
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:22:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C18C223.4060306@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100616085547.77f9169e@schatten.dmk.lab>
Hello,
On 06/16/2010 08:55 AM, Florian Mickler wrote:
>> So, here's the overview I wrote up today. If anything needs more
>> clarification, just ask. Thanks.
>
> Nice writeup! I think it is sufficient already and I probably wouldn't
> bother, but here are a little comments if you want to polish it up...
>
> Also, feel free to ignore :)
>
> As a genereal rule, every abbreviation should be written out at least
> once and if you are going to abbreviate it from then on, the
> abbreviation goes in parenthesis after that. That helps the reader a
> lot.
Ah... all the fond memories of technical writing class are coming back
to me. :-)
> here you can then already use "wq". That makes it shorter, and if you
> use it consistently the reader doesn't wonder if wq and worqueue are
> different things.
>
>>
>> There are two types of workqueues, single and multi threaded. MT wq
>
> ... multi threaded (MT). MT wq keeps a bound ...
>
>> keeps a bound thread for each online CPU, while ST wq uses single
>
> ... while single threaded (ST) wq uses single ...
Updated.
>> Frustratingly, although MT wqs end up spending a lot of resources, the
>> level of concurrency provided is unsatisfactory. The concurrency
>> limitation is common to both ST and MT wqs although it's less severe
>
> I don't know what the english rules for plural of abbreviated word. But
> I would probably just drop the plural s and let the reader add it when
> he decodes the abbreviation. (ie replace wqs with wq) Or introduce it
> properly: "... workqueues (wqs) ... ", Or don't abbreviate it in the
> plural.
Dropped all the 's'es after abbrs.
>> cmwq extends workqueue with focus on the following goals.
>
> first mentioning of cmwq as an abbreviation is not nice for the reader.
> Better:
> Concurrency managed wq (cmwq) ... goals:
> Concurrency managed workqueue (cmwq) ... goals:
Updated.
>> * Workqueue is already very widely used. Maintain compatibility with
>> the current API while removing limitations of the current
>> implementation.
>
> * Because the current wq implementation is already very widely used we
> maintain compatibility with the API while removing above
> mentioned limitations.
Replaced.
>> * Provide single unified worker pool per cpu which can be shared by
>> all users. The worker pool and level of concurrency should be
>> regulated automatically so that the API users don't need to worry
>> about that.
>>
>> * Use what's necessary and allocate resources lazily on demand while
>> still maintaining forward progress guarantee where necessary.
>>
>>
>> == Unified worklist
>>
>> There's a single global cwq, or gcwq, per each possible cpu which
>
> ... global cwq (gcwq) per each possible cpu
>
>> actually serves out the execution contexts. cpu_workqueues or cwqs of
>
> cpu_workqueues (cwqs)
Hmmm.... how about cpu_workqueue's (cwq)?
>> cmwq provides three different ordering modes - reentrant (default),
>
> ... (default mode)...
>
>> non-reentrant and single-cpu, where single-cpu can be used to achieve
>> single-threadedness and full ordering combined with in-flight work
>> limit of 1. The default mode is basically the same as the original
>
> The default mode (reentrant) is basically...
>
>> implementation. The distinction between non-reentrancy and single-cpu
>> were made because some ST wq users didn't really need single
>> threadedness but just non-reentrancy.
>
>> Another area where things get more involved is workqueue flushing as
>> for flushing to which wq a work is queued matters. cmwq tracks this
>> using colors. When a work is queued to a cwq, it's assigned a color
>> and each cwq maintains counters for each work color. The color
>> assignment changes on each wq flush attempt. A cwq can tell that all
>> works queued before a certain wq flush attempt have finished by
>> waiting for all the colors upto that point to drain. This maintains
>> the original workqueue flush semantics without adding unscalable
>> overhead.
>
> [nice solution, btw]
I just wish the implementation were simpler. It's a bit too complex
than I would like. If anyone can simplify it, please go ahead and
give it a shot.
> There is only one gcwq?
> Then maybe better:
>
> _The_ gcwq is notified...
...
> also:
> ... The gcwq keeps the number of concurrent ...
...
> here too: ..., the gcwq immediately schedules ...
Okay.
> * improved latency for current schedule_work() users, i.e. the work
> get's executed in a more timely fashion?
Yeah, added.
I've updated the doc but I'm not really sure what I'm gonna do with
it. I suppose I can include part of it in the head comment or I can
beef it up with use cases and howtos and put it under Documentations/.
Eh... let's see. Anyways, thanks a lot.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-16 12:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-14 21:37 [PATCHSET] workqueue: concurrency managed workqueue, take#5 Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 01/30] kthread: implement kthread_data() Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 02/30] acpi: use queue_work_on() instead of binding workqueue worker to cpu0 Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 03/30] workqueue: kill RT workqueue Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 04/30] workqueue: misc/cosmetic updates Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 05/30] workqueue: merge feature parameters into flags Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 06/30] workqueue: define masks for work flags and conditionalize STATIC flags Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 07/30] workqueue: separate out process_one_work() Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 08/30] workqueue: temporarily disable workqueue tracing Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 13:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-15 16:37 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 09/30] workqueue: kill cpu_populated_map Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 10/30] workqueue: update cwq alignement Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 11/30] workqueue: reimplement workqueue flushing using color coded works Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 12/30] workqueue: introduce worker Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 13/30] workqueue: reimplement work flushing using linked works Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 14/30] workqueue: implement per-cwq active work limit Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 15/30] workqueue: reimplement workqueue freeze using max_active Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 16/30] workqueue: introduce global cwq and unify cwq locks Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 17/30] workqueue: implement worker states Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 18/30] workqueue: reimplement CPU hotplugging support using trustee Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 19/30] workqueue: make single thread workqueue shared worker pool friendly Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 20/30] workqueue: add find_worker_executing_work() and track current_cwq Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 21/30] workqueue: carry cpu number in work data once execution starts Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 22/30] workqueue: implement WQ_NON_REENTRANT Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 23/30] workqueue: use shared worklist and pool all workers per cpu Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 24/30] workqueue: implement concurrency managed dynamic worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 25/30] workqueue: increase max_active of keventd and kill current_is_keventd() Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 26/30] workqueue: add system_wq, system_long_wq and system_nrt_wq Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 27/30] workqueue: implement DEBUGFS/workqueue Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 13:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-15 16:42 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 28/30] workqueue: implement several utility APIs Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 29/30] libata: take advantage of cmwq and remove concurrency limitations Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:37 ` [PATCH 30/30] async: use workqueue for worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:58 ` [PATCHSET] workqueue: concurrency managed workqueue, take#5 Andrew Morton
2010-06-14 22:17 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 22:31 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-14 22:33 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 22:35 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-14 22:44 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 22:49 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-14 22:52 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-14 22:43 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-15 12:53 ` tytso
2010-06-15 16:15 ` [PATCH] SubmittingPatches: add more about patch descriptions Randy Dunlap
2010-06-15 16:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-06-15 18:15 ` [PATCHSET] workqueue: concurrency managed workqueue, take#5 Stefan Richter
2010-06-15 19:39 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 1:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-15 18:25 ` Overview of concurrency managed workqueue Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 18:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-06-15 18:44 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 19:43 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 12:10 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 13:27 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 13:30 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 13:41 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 13:45 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 14:05 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 14:15 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 14:34 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 15:11 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 15:50 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 16:30 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 16:55 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 18:22 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 18:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 19:20 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 19:46 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 19:58 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 5:29 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-17 6:21 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-17 8:28 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 18:03 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-18 6:36 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-18 16:38 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 19:36 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 19:52 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 20:19 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 20:24 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 20:40 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 21:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 23:15 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-18 8:03 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18 8:22 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18 17:29 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 18:31 ` Stefan Richter
2010-06-16 18:41 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-17 12:01 ` Andy Walls
2010-06-17 16:56 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-17 23:16 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-18 7:16 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18 7:31 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-18 8:09 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18 17:02 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-18 17:28 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 15:53 ` [PATCH] kthread: implement kthread_worker Tejun Heo
2010-06-21 20:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-06-22 7:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 8:38 ` Overview of concurrency managed workqueue Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 8:40 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 8:55 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 9:01 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 9:08 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 9:15 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 9:17 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 9:27 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 9:42 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 12:20 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 12:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 22:28 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-16 6:55 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-16 12:22 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2010-06-16 13:37 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-16 13:39 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-16 13:42 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-17 23:14 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-17 23:25 ` Joel Becker
2010-06-17 23:56 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-18 7:15 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18 7:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 18:29 ` [PATCHSET] workqueue: concurrency managed workqueue, take#5 Stefan Richter
2010-06-15 18:40 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 20:29 ` Stefan Richter
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