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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Kenji Kaneshige <kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	macro@linux-mips.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	eike-kernel@sf-tec.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: ioremap: fix wrong physical address handling
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:35:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C19EC57.3000409@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C19BA9A.4010300@zytor.com>

On 06/17/2010 07:03 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 06/16/2010 09:55 PM, Kenji Kaneshige wrote:
>   
>>> I think they might be. Kenji?
>>>       
>> No. My addresses are in the 44-bits range (around fc000000000). So it is
>> not required for my problem. This change assumes that phys_addr can be
>> above 44-bits (up to 52-bits (and higher in the future?)).
>>
>> By the way, is there linux kernel limit regarding above 44-bits physical
>> address in x86_32 PAE? For example, pfn above 32-bits is not supported?
>>
>>     

That's an awkward situation.  I would tend to suggest that you not
support this type of machine with a 32-bit kernel.  Is it a sparse
memory system, or is there a device mapped in that range?

I guess it would be possible to special-case ioremap to allow the
creation of such mappings, but I don't know what kind of system-wide
fallout would happen as a result.  The consequences of something trying
to extract a pfn from one of those ptes would be

> There are probably places at which PFNs are held in 32-bit numbers,
> although it would be good to track them down if it isn't too expensive
> to fix them (i.e. doesn't affect generic code.)
>   

There are many places which hold pfns in 32 bit variables on 32 bit
systems; the standard type for pfns is "unsigned long", pretty much
everywhere in the kernel.  It might be worth defining a pfn_t and
converting usage over to that, but it would be a pervasive change.

> This also affects paravirt systems, i.e. right now Xen has to locate all
> 32-bit guests below 64 GB, which limits its usefulness.
>   

I don't think the limit is 64GB.  A 32-bit PFN limits us to 2^44, which
is 16TB.  (32-bit PV Xen guests have another unrelated limit of around
160GB physical memory because that as much m2p table will fit into the
Xen hole in the kernel mapping.)

>> #ifdef CONFIG_X86_PAE
>> /* 44=32+12, the limit we can fit into an unsigned long pfn */
>> #define __PHYSICAL_MASK_SHIFT   44
>> #define __VIRTUAL_MASK_SHIFT    32
>>
>> If there is 44-bits physical address limit, I think it's better to use
>> PHYSICAL_PAGE_MASK for masking physical address, instead of "(phys_addr
>>     
>>>> PAGE_SHIFT) << PAGE_SHIFT)". The PHYSICAL_PAGE_MASK would become
>>>>         
>> greater value when 44-bits physical address limit is eliminated. And
>> maybe we need to change phys_addr_valid() returns error if physical
>> address is above (1 << __PHYSICAL_MASK_SHIFT)?
>>     
> The real question is how much we can fix without an unreasonable cost.
>   

I think it would be a pretty large change.  From the Xen's perspective,
any machine even approximately approaching the 2^44 limit will be
capable of running Xen guests in hvm mode, so PV isn't really a concern.

    J

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-17  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-17  1:28 [BUG][PATCH 0/2 (v.2)] x86: ioremap() problem in X86_32 PAE Kenji Kaneshige
2010-06-17  1:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86: ioremap: fix wrong physical address handling Kenji Kaneshige
2010-06-17  2:50   ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-06-17  4:22     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-17  4:55       ` Kenji Kaneshige
2010-06-17  6:03         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-17  6:21           ` Kenji Kaneshige
2010-06-17  9:35           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2010-06-17  9:38             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-06-17 13:46             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-18  0:32               ` Kenji Kaneshige
2010-06-18  0:22             ` Kenji Kaneshige
2010-07-09  4:24             ` Simon Horman
2010-07-09  5:33               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-09  6:10                 ` Simon Horman
2010-06-17  6:28     ` Kenji Kaneshige
2010-07-09 18:31   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86, pae: Fix handling of large physical addresses in ioremap tip-bot for Kenji Kaneshige
2010-07-09 18:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-17  1:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: ioremap: fix normal ram range check Kenji Kaneshige
2010-07-09 18:31   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86, ioremap: Fix " tip-bot for Kenji Kaneshige
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-18  3:21 [BUG][PATCH 0/2 (v.3)] x86: ioremap() problem in X86_32 PAE Kenji Kaneshige
2010-06-18  3:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86: ioremap: fix wrong physical address handling Kenji Kaneshige
2010-06-18 11:07   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-06-21  1:40     ` Kenji Kaneshige

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