From: Ryan Mallon <ryan@bluewatersys.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "David Brownell" <david-b@pacbell.net>,
"David Brownell" <dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net>,
gregkh@suse.de, "linux kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com,
"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:10:29 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C22A275.3030102@bluewatersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100624000403.GH7058@shareable.org>
On 06/24/2010 12:04 PM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Ryan Mallon wrote:
>> On 06/24/2010 10:53 AM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
>>> Ryan Mallon wrote:
>>>> On 06/23/2010 04:37 PM, David Brownell wrote:
>>>> I'm not. Some gpios, such as those on io expanders, may sleep in their
>>>> implementations of the gpio_(set/get) functions.
>>>
>>> I'm having a hard time figuring out where some GPIOs I'm using fit
>>> into this picture.
>>>
>>> I have some hardware that is currently using a 2.4.26 kernel, but I
>>> look from time to time at forward-porting all the drivers to 2.6.recent.
>>>
>>> It has an I2C driven GPIO expander, with a watchdog reset chip hanging
>>> off the expander.
>>>
>>> The watchdog is kept alive off the back end of a timer BH, which means
>>> the I2C GPIO routines are written to be safe in BH context (which
>>> isn't sleepable), but they can't be used in IRQ context because the
>>> necessary spin_lock_irqsave() would turn off interrupts for too long
>>> for other subsystems to function properly.
>>
>> Do the implementations of the get/set calls for the io expander gpios
>> sleep at all?
>
> No, because sleeping isn't allowed in BH context. (Note that this is
> 2.4.26 code - things have changed a bit for 2.6, but the hardware is
> the same, and still needs the I2C watchdog to be driven from a BH-like
> context).
>
>>> How should I flag those GPIO routines in your scheme? They're safe to
>>> use in some non-sleeping contexts, but not safe in irq context.
>>
>> The idea in my proposal is to use gpio_request in a driver if the
>> requested gpio can never sleep (ie because of the context it is used
>> in), and gpio_request_cansleep if the gpio is never used from non-sleep
>> safe context in a driver. I suggested stripping back the patch to just
>> add the gpio_request_cansleep function.
>>
>> In the current code, if a driver ever calls gpio_(set/get)_value on a
>> gpio then you cannot pass a sleeping gpio to that driver. The request
>> will succeed, but you will get warnings with the get/get calls are made.
>> My idea is basically to move the denotation of whether a gpio will be
>> used in non-sleep safe context to the gpio request.
>
> The reason I'm asking about my scenario is because the GPIO routines
> can't sleep and are used from a non-sleep safe context - but they are
> not safe to call in irq contexts.
>
> So my watchdog driver would have to call gpio_request (not _cansleep)
> - that's fine. But if I connected other GPIOs from the same GPIO
> driver (other lines on the same I/O expander chip) to another
> GPIO-using driver which happens to use them from irq context, then
> your changes won't detect the problem - the code will just break at
> runtime.
>
> Of course if I did that, it would be my fault and my problem. I get
> to keep both pieces etc. But it's a scenario which your proposal
> would fail to catch at compile time, that's why I bring it up.
That's true. It wouldn't be caught in the current code either. I'm not
sure how you would go about sensibly writing code to handle that
situation; it's really a problem that needs to be caught during patch
review.
~Ryan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-24 0:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-17 21:47 gpiolib and sleeping gpios Ryan Mallon
2010-06-18 5:27 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-18 6:16 ` David Brownell
2010-06-18 22:01 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-19 6:21 ` David Brownell
2010-06-20 21:31 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-21 2:40 ` David Brownell
2010-06-21 5:09 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-23 1:59 ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios) Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23 4:37 ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 4:58 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23 9:51 ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 5:02 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23 5:26 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23 9:39 ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 19:12 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-24 4:46 ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleepinggpios) Jon Povey
2010-06-24 8:20 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24 8:29 ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-24 10:31 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24 6:41 ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios) Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-23 22:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-23 23:06 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-24 0:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-24 0:10 ` Ryan Mallon [this message]
2010-06-25 7:19 ` David Brownell
2010-06-24 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleepinggpios) Jon Povey
2010-06-29 8:29 ` gpiolib and sleeping gpios CoffBeta
2010-06-23 11:53 ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 12:40 ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 13:22 ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 13:39 ` David Brownell
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