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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	2nddept-manager@sdl.hitachi.co.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 0/11]  Uprobes Patches:
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:17:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C2C5D41.40807@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100701081942.GA19826@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ingo,
>>
>> I have addressed all comments to the uprobes patchset.  We have few todos 
>> (most of them are features over the current code) which I plan to work in 
>> the immediate future.
>>
>> So would it be possible for this patchset to be picked into the tip tree. 
>> Getting these patches merged into the tip tree would help in getting more 
>> comments/feedback and testing.
> 
> If Masami-san, PeterZ and Arnaldo is happy with it being tried in its current 
> form then we could try it.

At least ftrace/perf side, it's almost good for me. (but I need time to test it)

> Assuming everyone is reasonably happy about the code, here are some open areas 
> as i see them, before we can think about pushing things from -tip towards 
> upstream:
> 
> - One thing i havent seen is the ability to 'list' potential probe points:
>   i.e. function names. Often the user will not know precisely where to look 
>   and what to type. This leaves our probe capability under-utilized in 
>   practice.

It will be the next step for perf-(u)probe, debuginfo support. Since
the perf-(k)probe already support in which function the probe is put,
I think if perf-(u)probe support debuginfo, it's easy to be implemented.

> - On a similar note, it might also make sense to extend the Newt interface to 
>   perf report to integrate probes: if a function looks high-overhead, then a 
>   probe point could be inserted and the app could be traced straight away. We 
>   already allow per function actions in the Newt interface, such as assembly 
>   annotation - the adding of a probe point would be quite useful.

Hmm, does that mean that user puts a new probe point from Newt interface?
That's a good idea:)

> - [ Optional: Another interesting area to look at would be the scripting 
>     engine: allow trace scripts to insert probes if they are not present yet. ]

Sure, that's what I hope. :)

> - Plus the security model is an open question as well. Right now it's
>   root-only, but it would make sense to allow users to insert probes into 
>   their own apps. This brings up the next point:

Hmm, put a probe in user-space(by owner) may be good. But
inside the kernel, there are more sensitive informations...

> - Proper syscall integration and more unification with kprobes and with the 
>   TRACE_EVENT() universe. As far as API design goes, 
>   /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/uprobe_events is quite sucky as a concept.

Yeah, we can extend the interface and merge it. But removing all
debugfs interfaces should be discussed.

Thank you,

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-01  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-29 18:34 [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 0/11] Uprobes Patches: Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:35 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 1/11] mm: Move replace_page() / write_protect_page() to mm/memory.c Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:35 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 2/11] uprobes: Breakpoint insertion/removal in user space applications Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:35 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 3/11] uprobes: Slot allocation for Execution out of line(XOL) Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:35 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 4/11] uprobes: x86 specific functions for user space breakpointing Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:35 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 5/11] uprobes: Uprobes (un)registration and exception handling Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:36 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 6/11] uprobes: X86 support for Uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:36 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 7/11] uprobes: Uprobes Documentation Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:36 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 8/11] trace: Extract out common code for kprobes/uprobes traceevents Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:36 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 9/11] trace: uprobes trace_event interface Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:36 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 10/11] perf: Re-Add make_absolute_path Srikar Dronamraju
2010-06-29 18:37 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 11/11] perf: perf interface for uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2010-07-01  5:59   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-07-02 11:25     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-07-02 11:28       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2010-07-06  0:27         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-07-01  5:02 ` [PATCHv7 2.6.35-rc3-tip 0/11] Uprobes Patches: Srikar Dronamraju
2010-07-01  8:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-01  9:17     ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2010-07-01  9:58       ` Ingo Molnar

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