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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Roedel, Joerg" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: SVM: Emulate next_rip svm feature
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:57:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C501B30.6020900@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100728115133.GG26098@amd.com>

  On 07/28/2010 02:51 PM, Roedel, Joerg wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:34:11AM -0400, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>    On 07/28/2010 02:25 PM, Roedel, Joerg wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:28:06AM -0400, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>> We have a slightly different problem, if the nested guest manages to get
>>>> an instruction to be emulated by the host (if the guest assigned it the
>>>> cirrus framebuffer, for example, so from L1's point of view it is RAM,
>>>> but from L0's point of view it is emulated), then we miss the
>>>> intercept.  L2 could take over L1 this way.
>>> I wonder how this could happen. Shouldn't the shadow paging code take
>>> care of this?
>>>
>> L1 thinks the memory is RAM, so it maps it directly and forgets about
>> it.  L0 knows it isn't, so it leaves it unmapped and emulates any
>> instruction which accesses it.  The emulator needs to check whether the
>> instruction is intercepted or not.
> Instruction intercepts take precedence over exception intercepts. So if
> the L2 executes an instruction which the L1 hypervisor wants to
> intercept we get this instruction intercept on the host side and
> re-inject it.
> To my understanding the fault-intercept which causes the emulator to run
> can only happen if the instruction causing the fault isn't intercepted
> itself.

If the instruction opcode is on mmio, the processor never sees the 
opcode and thus can not intercept.  Or the processor may see one 
instruction, which is not intercepted, but by the time the emulator 
kicks in a different instruction takes its place, since another vcpu is 
evilly cross-modifying the code.

>> Note, I think if the instruction operand is in mmio, we're safe, since
>> the intercept has higher priority than memory access.  But if the
>> instruction itself is on mmio, or if we entered the emulator through smp
>> trickery, then the emulator will execute the instruction in nested guest
>> context.
> Right. But if the guest executes code which is on mmio we are doomed
> anyway because our instruction emulator does not emulate the whole x86
> instruction set, right?

The guest (L2 in this case) is doomed since it execution cannot 
continue.  But L1 and L0 are fine.  The problem with L2 avoiding 
intercepts is that L2 can change control registers and take over L1.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-28 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-27 16:14 [PATCH 0/2] Nested SVM fix and next_rip emulation Joerg Roedel
2010-07-27 16:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: SVM: Sync efer back into nested vmcb Joerg Roedel
2010-07-27 19:07   ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-28  7:54     ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-27 16:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: SVM: Emulate next_rip svm feature Joerg Roedel
2010-07-27 18:32   ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-28  9:37     ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-28 10:28       ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-28 11:25         ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-28 11:34           ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-28 11:51             ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-28 11:57               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-07-28 12:18                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-28 12:25                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-28 10:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] Nested SVM fix and next_rip emulation Avi Kivity
2010-07-28 16:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti

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