From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Chetan Loke <chetanloke@gmail.com>,
Chetan Loke <generationgnu@yahoo.com>,
scst-devel <scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010...
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:50:40 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C6C1D70.7020502@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1282148296.3035.49.camel@mulgrave.site>
James Bottomley, on 08/18/2010 08:18 PM wrote:
>> James you are an expert but not everyone is. This is not a venting
>> session but even folks who are new to target architecture find it easy
>> to hack SCST.
>
> But that's not really relevant, is it? I would expect that whatever I
> do, even keeping both out of tree, the communities around the solutions
> would still exist and be vibrant, since they're out of tree now, nothing
> will have changed.
The problem that people do believe that the merged code is the best
code, so the being merged is an immediate HUGE advertisement. So, you
can't say if a code is inside the mainline tree or not isn't relevant.
This is the source of the questions from the SCST community. SCST is at
the moment the best code. It's several years ahead any competitor. SCST
has more functionality, SCST has more users, SCST has bigger community,
SCST has more testing and, hence, stability, SCST has more support from
storage vendors, etc. But for some reasons all those suddenly ignored
and a raw, pursuing SCST code preferred instead.
So, we want to know those reasons. SCST wasn't even really considered.
Isn't Linux anymore a place where the best code wins? Frankly, it looks
like the decision was done under closed doors based on rather political
reasons, like personal connections...
Vlad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-18 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-18 14:58 [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 15:11 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <AANLkTimJGxn=5kEMH68XVWqFcYG3vpfLjLjZpFGqhG_4@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-18 15:30 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:04 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:18 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:50 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
2010-08-19 1:18 ` jack wang
2010-08-20 13:46 ` Ruben Laban
[not found] ` <8A96806D-6CD7-44AD-8A9D-143C098C95A4@uni-paderborn.de>
[not found] ` <1282256949.30453.278.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org>
2010-08-21 18:42 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:25 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-24 18:08 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:43 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22 7:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-22 20:29 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 13:47 ` Joe Landman
2010-08-23 15:12 ` Bart Van Assche
[not found] ` <AANLkTim-M6dfLvJQnbieFqZCGG33E+-i+u_soCq2p9f1@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-23 16:07 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-23 18:03 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-24 7:25 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-24 14:43 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 17:51 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 20:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 14:55 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
[not found] ` <4C7404C4.4040704@vlnb.net>
2010-08-24 20:31 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-08-25 19:12 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-16 15:05 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-08-23 19:41 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:51 ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 14:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-25 22:20 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-08-25 22:45 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-24 14:57 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 19:48 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 21:23 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-26 20:11 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-26 21:23 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-28 17:32 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-28 20:47 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-30 20:47 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-30 21:46 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-02 19:38 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-02 20:25 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 20:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 21:50 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 23:13 ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06 0:12 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 0:58 ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06 1:34 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 5:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:59 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 4:56 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-06 10:39 ` James Bottomley
2010-09-06 11:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-06 11:27 ` James Bottomley
2010-09-06 15:26 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:47 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:55 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 22:14 ` david
2010-09-07 0:44 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07 3:45 ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-07 6:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07 6:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07 6:26 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07 20:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-07 20:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:16 ` Greg KH
2010-09-06 17:28 ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-06 21:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 17:51 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:19 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:28 ` Joe Landman
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 15:12 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-20 17:40 Ari Lemmke
2010-08-16 16:20 Fwd: Re: [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-17 20:30 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 20:43 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-21 18:51 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:38 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22 22:10 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: " Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-08-23 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 17:44 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 17:58 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 20:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 20:21 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 19:40 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 20:38 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 10:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 19:53 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 19:40 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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