From: Phil Turmel <philip@turmel.org>
To: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
uml-devel <user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Subject: Re: {painfully BISECTED} Please revert f25c80a4b2: arch/um/drivers: remove duplicate structure field initialization
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:06:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CA0A502.5040404@turmel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CA09977.80506@panasas.com>
On 09/27/2010 09:17 AM, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
[snip /]
>
> <RANT A HEAD CAN BE IGNORED>
>
> It has become extremely hard to bisect a simple problem in latest Kernels!
>
> Most mainline merges during a merge window are based on an rc1 of the previous
> Kernel. In the last 5 Kernels there was a 90% chance of a BAD bug in systems
> I use, at rc1. If a bug is found that needs bisecting. The other bugs creep
> up during bisect and mask out the possibility to bisect.
I had similar problems when bisecting the recent USB HID regression. Once I
realized that "bisect skip" kept dropping me into a rats nest, I guessed on
-rc2 and was able to proceed from there.
...
> In short I wish at some 2.6.XX-rc[45] of every Kernel cycle. Maintainers
> would rebase their next's tree of [XX+1] to a some what more stable rc.
> Sure re-run all the tests. They still have time for the new tree in next
> to be tested and verified before the next merge window.
> (Hell one of my bisect points took me as back as 2.6.34)
>
> Please remind me why maintainers should not rebase their trees once
> committed, to the point that they don't rebase even for buggy patches
> that are already in next, and apply fix patches, all within the same
> merge window. The same is also done with merge conflicts with the
> rc-cycle of their own code, instead of rebasing.
>
> So in short this is a call for, possibly, cleaner History in main Kernel.
> Please remind me why re-writing history is a bad thing.
I can't comment on whether rebasing is reasonable at that level, but I
was wondering if it made sense to teach git bisect to automatically
cherry-pick known regression fixes. If I recall correctly, someone once
suggested a history tag of the form "Fixes: <git-commit-id>". By itself,
that's probably not sufficient, as I'm sure some relevant commits would
get through without that tag. A separate index file containing pairs of
commit-ids could supplement the main history.
If that sounds like a reasonable approach, I'm willing to take a stab at
implementing it. (Unless someone smarter than me beats me to it, of course.)
Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-27 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-27 13:17 {painfully BISECTED} Please revert f25c80a4b2: arch/um/drivers: remove duplicate structure field initialization Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-27 14:06 ` Phil Turmel [this message]
2010-09-28 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-28 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-28 20:51 ` David Miller
2010-09-28 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-28 21:00 ` David Miller
2010-09-28 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-29 8:34 ` [PATCH] um: Proper Fix for f25c80a4: " Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-29 15:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-30 2:28 ` David Miller
2010-09-29 8:41 ` {painfully BISECTED} Please revert f25c80a4b2: arch/um/drivers: " Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-29 15:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-30 2:27 ` David Miller
2010-09-28 21:11 ` Al Viro
2010-09-28 21:24 ` Al Viro
2010-09-28 21:42 ` David Miller
2010-09-28 21:51 ` Al Viro
2010-09-29 17:19 ` [uml-devel] " Renzo Davoli
2011-01-26 16:32 ` {painfullyBISECTED} " Emil Langrock
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