From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand
	id S1756015Ab0I2Mpx (ORCPT <rfc822;w@1wt.eu>);
	Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:45:53 -0400
Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:38308 "HELO mail.gmx.net"
	rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP
	id S1755752Ab0I2Mpv (ORCPT <rfc822;linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>);
	Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:45:51 -0400
X-Authenticated: #31060655
X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/bHAtFwGrbEAt796pDWo5mvF1iQ0we2gPnTL8QBP
	GgDTc9l1cbZDkD
Message-ID: <4CA334FA.2080707@gmx.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:45:46 +0200
From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090410 SUSE/1.1.18-0.1 SeaMonkey/1.1.18
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
CC: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
        linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
        sf-linux-drivers <linux-net-drivers@solarflare.com>,
        flashrom <flashrom@flashrom.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Online firmware upgrade in non-embedded systems
References: <1285696787.2282.45.camel@achroite.uk.solarflarecom.com>	 <4CA26F35.6060408@gmx.net> <1285763700.2283.6.camel@achroite.uk.solarflarecom.com>
In-Reply-To: <1285763700.2283.6.camel@achroite.uk.solarflarecom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0
Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
List-ID: <linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org>
X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org

On 29.09.2010 14:35, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 00:41 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
>   
>> [adding flashrom@flashrom.org to CC, senders will be whitelisted after a
>> short delay]
>>
>> On 28.09.2010 19:59, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>>     
>>> Network and disk controllers normally have at least some firmware in
>>> flash to support their use as boot devices. [...]
>>>   
>>>       
>> Given that the flashrom utility <http://www.flashrom.org/> (GPLv2)
>> supports flashing many network cards, SATA/PATA controllers, graphics
>> cards, and of course the main system firmware/BIOS/EFI, and it does that
>> from userspace without any kernel support,
>>     
> [...]
>
> I'm looking for a clean solution, not a hack.
>   

What would qualify as a clean solution? And is cross-platform code one
of your goals?


Regards,
Carl-Daniel