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From: Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
To: Valerie Aurora <vaurora@redhat.com>
Cc: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>,
	Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Scott James Remnant <scott@canonical.com>,
	Vladimir Dronnikov <dronnikov@gmail.com>,
	Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, neilb@suse.de,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7 v3] overlay: hybrid overlay filesystem prototype
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:51:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CB3166B.8080008@ubuntu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101006173141.GB18479@shell>

  On 06/10/2010 18:31, Valerie Aurora wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 11:34:57AM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
>> On Thursday 30 September 2010 23:51:15 Valerie Aurora wrote:
>>> Hm, this was a pretty basic assumption for me - that you'd want to
>>> construct a topmost image offline that would be "merged" with the
>>> lower layers.  So, for example:
>>>
>>> Topmost layer contains:
>>>
>>> /etc/hostname
>>>
>>> Lower layers contain everything else in /etc/.  So /etc/ would exist
>>> on the topmost layer at the time of union mount, but we would want it
>>> to be transparent.  But if we created a new dir *during* the union
>>> mount, it would be opaque.
>>>
>>> What was your model?
>> The prevalent use case probably is to start out with an empty topmost layer on
>> top of an existing file system.  When things are modified, changes obviously
>> go into the topmost layer.  Additional layers can later be stacked on top of
>> that, turning the previous topmost layer into a read-only lower layer.
>>
>> Overlaying preexisting file systems doesn't seem that important; users
>> commonly should be able to start out with an empty topmost layer instead.  To
> Okay, that surprises me.  Let me check my assumptions.  I cc'd several
> people who seem to be actively using unionfs or aufs in ways that we
> want union mounts to replace.  Do you start out with an empty topmost
> file system in most cases?  Or do you prepopulate with some files in
> dirs you want to be transparent?
>
Our use would be for the Live CD and for Update testing - in both of 
these scenarios I imagine that the top-most layer would start empty, yes.

Scott

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-20 18:04 [PATCH 0/7 v3] overlay filesystem prototype Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 1/7 v3] vfs: implement open "forwarding" Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 2/7 v3] vfs: make i_op->permission take a dentry instead of an inode Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 3/7 v3] vfs: add flag to allow rename to same inode Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-23 22:04   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 4/7 v3] vfs: export do_splice_direct() to modules Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 5/7 v3] vfs: fix possible use after free in finish_open() Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-23 20:19   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 6/7 v3] overlay: hybrid overlay filesystem prototype Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-22 23:21   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-24 14:33     ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-24 17:16       ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-24 17:56   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-27  8:11     ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-27 11:49       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-09-27 12:15         ` J. R. Okajima
2010-09-27 18:47       ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-28  8:24         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-09-30 21:51           ` Valerie Aurora
2010-10-01  9:34             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-10-06 17:31               ` Valerie Aurora
2010-10-11  9:41                 ` Michal Suchanek
2010-10-11 13:51                 ` Scott James Remnant [this message]
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 7/7 v3] overlay: overlay filesystem documentation Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-21  1:31 ` [PATCH 0/7 v3] overlay filesystem prototype Neil Brown
2010-09-22  9:50   ` Miklos Szeredi

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