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From: Chen Gong <gong.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: "Koornstra, Reinoud" <koornstra@hp.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Sameer Nanda <snanda@chromium.org>,
	"lenb@kernel.org" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"stefan.bader@canonical.com" <stefan.bader@canonical.com>,
	"brad.figg@canonical.com" <brad.figg@canonical.com>,
	"apw@canonical.com" <apw@canonical.com>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Read TSC upon resume
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:41:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBBB3EC.9000609@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E92FAF79A8BBC642A36EEE3AA7F152D884DB9CA072@GVW1089EXB.americas.hpqcorp.net>

于 10/16/2010 11:03 AM, Koornstra, Reinoud 写道:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-acpi-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-acpi-
>> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Rafael J. Wysocki
>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:44 PM
>> To: Greg KH
>> Cc: Sameer Nanda; lenb@kernel.org; stefan.bader@canonical.com;
>> brad.figg@canonical.com; apw@canonical.com; linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org;
>> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Read TSC upon resume
>>
>> On Thursday, October 07, 2010, Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:05:21AM -0700, Sameer Nanda wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Greg KH<gregkh@suse.de>  wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:43:34AM -0700, Sameer Nanda wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Greg KH<gregkh@suse.de>  wrote:
>>>>>>> And are you always going to be printing this out?  Why do we
>> want to
>>>>>>> know this every time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, every time.  This helps track variance in BIOS resume times
>> within a
>>>>>> single boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that really something that users can do something about?
>>>>
>>>> Aside from complaining to the BIOS vendors, no :)
>>>
>>> Then I would not recommend adding this patch, as it is irrelevant for
>>> 99.9999% of all Linux users.
>>
>> It may be somewhat useful, but the rdtscll() call seems to be x86-
>> specific, in
>> which case it shouldn't be used at this place.
>
> Also, in the case of an intel core 2 duo cpu, the tsc is not stable, hence upon resume the cpu is spinning up and the first tsc's will be slower.
> During idle-time the tsc will not be incremented. The tsc is only stably incremented upon 100% cpu usage. It also doesn't increment faster in turbo mode in case of some core 2 duo and certainly the Nehalem cpu's. Calculating in time in terms of tsc might not be so reliable.
>
If I'm wrong, please feel free to fix me.

I have 2 questions to your answer:

1.  CPU has a flag named constant_tsc to keep TSC always working in a 
constant way, so it is irrelvant to the CPU freq. whether in turbo mode 
or any P-state CPU currently belongs to, TSC should be not affected. 
IIRC, this flag should exist long before, at least before Core 2 duo. If 
so, TSC shoule be stable in this kind of environment.

2. though during idle-time TSC will not be incremented, here I want to
remind it is right before Westmere (TSC not always running), and you 
mentioned "upon resume the cpu is spinning up and the first tsc's will 
be slower", I don't know if this commit cd7240c0b can fix it up.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-18  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-06 23:15 [PATCH] ACPI: Read TSC upon resume Sameer Nanda
2010-10-07  2:19 ` Greg KH
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTimE2h46iZkj_amvgUg5UwN9xjuwqdW5TB+XccYy@mail.gmail.com>
2010-10-07 17:46     ` Greg KH
2010-10-07 18:05       ` Sameer Nanda
2010-10-07 18:15         ` Greg KH
2010-10-07 21:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-16  3:03             ` Koornstra, Reinoud
2010-10-18  2:41               ` Chen Gong [this message]
2010-10-07 17:58   ` Sameer Nanda
2010-10-07 19:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 21:27       ` Sameer Nanda
2010-10-07 21:43         ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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