From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
ksummit-2010-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kapil@ccs.neu.edu,
gene@ccs.neu.edu
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:36:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CD26270.5050906@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1288835258.6132.56.camel@tp-t61>
Hello,
On 11/04/2010 02:47 AM, Nathan Lynch wrote:
>> In this case whitelisting the allowed
>> state by requiring special APIs for all I/O (or even just standard
>> APIs as long as they are supposed by the C/R lib you're linked against)
>> is the more pragmatic, and I think faithful aproach.
>
> I don't think users will go for it. They'll continue to use dodgy
> out-of-tree kernel modules and/or LD_PRELOAD hacks instead of porting
> their applications to a new library. I think a C/R library is an
> "ideal" solution, but it's one that nobody would use - especially in
> HPC, unless the library somehow provides better performance.
I hear that there are plans to integrate one of the userland
snapshotting implementations with HPC workload manager. ISTR the
combination to be condor + dmtcp but not sure. I think things like
that make a lot of sense. Scientists writing programs for HPC
clusters already work in given frameworks and what those applications
do and how to recover are pretty well confined/defined. If you
integrate snapshotting with such frameworks, it becomes pretty easy
for both the admins and users.
I'll talk about other issues in the reply to Oren's email.
Thanks.
--
tejun
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2010-11-02 21:35 ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch Tejun Heo
2010-11-02 21:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-04 1:47 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-04 7:36 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2010-11-04 16:04 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-04 20:45 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-06 6:48 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-04 4:34 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04 14:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-04 3:40 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-04 8:05 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 16:44 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-05 9:28 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-05 23:18 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 10:13 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06 0:36 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-06 22:55 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 19:42 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-07 21:30 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:05 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 3:55 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 16:26 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 18:14 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 18:37 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 19:34 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 19:05 ` Dan Smith
2010-11-17 11:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:33 ` Dan Smith
2010-11-17 15:40 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 17:04 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-17 10:45 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 12:12 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06 5:32 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 15:01 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 20:40 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-06 22:41 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 18:49 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-07 21:59 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 11:57 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-11-17 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 9:13 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-11-18 9:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:13 ` Jose R. Santos
2010-11-19 3:54 ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-18 19:53 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-19 4:10 ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-19 14:04 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 14:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2010-11-19 15:33 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:00 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:10 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:25 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:19 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:27 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:32 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:38 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:50 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:55 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-20 17:58 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:05 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:08 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:11 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:15 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-21 8:18 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 8:21 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-22 18:02 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-11-23 17:53 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-24 3:50 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-25 16:04 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-29 4:09 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 22:41 ` Grant Likely
2010-11-22 17:34 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-22 17:18 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 22:17 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-18 10:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:25 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 21:44 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:31 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-05 22:24 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04 4:03 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04 9:43 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 12:48 ` Luck, Tony
2010-11-04 13:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06 10:12 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 11:03 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-07 22:59 ` Davide Libenzi
2010-11-08 2:32 ` david
2010-11-18 20:41 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-05 3:55 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-05 11:57 ` Luck, Tony
2010-11-05 17:17 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-06 1:16 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 4:06 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 5:18 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 21:00 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-05 17:31 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-11-06 21:05 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 16:55 ` Grant Likely
2010-11-08 21:01 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-11 6:27 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-17 5:29 ` Anton Blanchard
2010-11-17 11:08 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 9:53 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-18 12:27 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 6:33 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 23:20 ` Grant Likely
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