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From: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>
To: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Cypher Wu <cypher.w@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel rwlock design, Multicore and IGMP
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:03:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CDF1945.8090101@tilera.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXmP8hjgLHA.4648@exchange1.tad.internal.tilera.com>

On 11/12/2010 2:13 AM, Américo Wang wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:32:59AM +0800, Cypher Wu wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Le jeudi 11 novembre 2010 à 21:49 +0800, Cypher Wu a écrit :
>>>> I'm using TILEPro and its rwlock in kernel is a liitle different than
>>>> other platforms. It have a priority for write lock that when tried it
>>>> will block the following read lock even if read lock is hold by
>>>> others. Its code can be read in Linux Kernel 2.6.36 in
>>>> arch/tile/lib/spinlock_32.c.
>>>
>>> This seems a bug to me.
>>> [...]
>>>
>> It seems not a problem that read_lock() can be nested or not since
>> rwlock doesn't have 'owner', it's just that should we give
>> write_lock() a priority than read_lock() since if there have a lot
>> read_lock()s then they'll starve write_lock().
>> We should work out a well defined behavior so all the
>> platform-dependent raw_rwlock has to design under that principle.
> 
> It is a known weakness of rwlock, it is designed like that. :)

Exactly.  The tile rwlock correctly allows recursively reacquiring the read
lock.  But it does give priority to writers, for the (unfortunately
incorrect) reasons Cypher Wu outlined above, e.g.:

- Core A takes a read lock
- Core B tries for a write lock and blocks new read locks
- Core A tries for a (recursive) read lock and blocks

Core A and B are now deadlocked.

The solution is actually to simplify the tile rwlock implementation so that
both readers and writers contend fairly for the lock.

I'll post a patch in the next day or two for tile.

-- 
Chris Metcalf, Tilera Corp.
http://www.tilera.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-13 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-11 13:49 Kernel rwlock design, Multicore and IGMP Cypher Wu
2010-11-11 15:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-11 15:32   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-12  3:32   ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-12  6:28     ` Américo Wang
2010-11-12  7:13     ` Américo Wang
2010-11-12  7:27       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-12  8:19         ` Américo Wang
2010-11-12  9:09           ` Yong Zhang
2010-11-12  9:18             ` Américo Wang
2010-11-12 11:06               ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-13  6:35                 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-12 13:00               ` Yong Zhang
2010-11-13  6:28                 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-12  9:22           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-12  9:33             ` Américo Wang
2010-11-12 13:34             ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] igmp: RCU conversion of in_dev->mc_list Eric Dumazet
2010-11-12 14:26               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-12 15:46                 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6 V2] " Eric Dumazet
2010-11-12 21:19                   ` David Miller
2010-11-13  6:44                   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-13 22:54           ` Kernel rwlock design, Multicore and IGMP Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-12 11:10         ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-12 11:25           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-13 22:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <ZXmP8hjgLHA.4648@exchange1.tad.internal.tilera.com>
2010-11-13 23:03       ` Chris Metcalf [this message]
2010-11-15  7:22         ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-15 11:18           ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-15 11:31             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-17  1:30               ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-17  4:43                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-15 14:18           ` [PATCH] arch/tile: fix rwlock so would-be write lockers don't block new readers Chris Metcalf
2010-11-15 14:52             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-15 15:10               ` Chris Metcalf
2010-11-22  5:39             ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-22 13:35               ` Chris Metcalf
2010-11-23  1:36                 ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-23 21:02                   ` Chris Metcalf
2010-11-24  2:53                     ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-24 14:09                       ` Chris Metcalf
2010-11-24 16:37                         ` Cypher Wu
2010-11-13 22:52 ` Kernel rwlock design, Multicore and IGMP Peter Zijlstra

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