From: Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace'
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:07:02 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE30086.2070806@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101116215940.GA13912@elte.hu>
On 11/16/2010 01:59 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Darren Hart<dvhart@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/16/2010 01:04 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> We are pleased to announce a new tracing tool called 'trace'.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Thomas, Ingo - Congrats and Thanks!
>
> You are welcome :)
>
>>> At this point we'd like to ask for feedback from other users of tracing tools,
>>> which workflow components would you like to see in addition to what the 'trace'
>>> tool is offering?
>>>
>>> Comments, bug reports, suggestions welcome,
>>
>> The first thing that comes to mind is trace_marker:
>>
>> echo "Test point A"> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_marker
>>
>> I've found this sort of markup to be useful using ftrace (with C equivalents
>> embedded in the test case). Is this supported?
>
> Yes, LatencyTop uses something similar IIRC, via a prctl() hack: it uses
> prctl(PR_SET_NAME) to inject up to 16 characters into the comm - and then every perf
> event gets that comm. You can utilize that straight away if you need a marker
> solution right now.
OK, definitely much more limited than trace_marker.
>
> A cleaner, more generic approach would be a more free-form ASCII event facility for
> this: a generic 'user-space triggered event' with injection capabilities.
>
> To inject it, we could put that into a prctl() as well, for easy, single-syscall
> access from C. We already have two perf prctls: PR_TASK_PERF_EVENTS_DISABLE,
> PR_TASK_PERF_EVENTS_ENABLE - and this would be a third one: PR_TASK_PERF_USER_EVENT.
>
> This would, like the existing perf_event_task_enable()/disable() methods, loop
> through current events and inject a string into matching user events.
>
> Ideally i'd like to see basically user-space access to trace_printk(), and proper
Right, this would be ideal.
> integration into /debug/tracing/events/ enumeration and availability - not a
> ftrace-specific and admin-only hack like /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_marker is
> today.
>
> Would you be interested in helping out with (and testing) such a more generic
> approach?
I would. I need some time to familiarize myself with perf first (I've
been a relatively happy ftrace/trace-cmd user for the last couple years).
--
Darren Hart
Yocto Linux Kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-16 22:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-16 21:04 [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-16 21:27 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 21:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:09 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:48 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:07 ` Darren Hart [this message]
2010-11-16 22:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 8:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 15:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 18:13 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 18:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 18:30 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 16:49 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 23:23 ` Joe Perches
2010-11-16 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 1:37 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 1:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 3:16 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 3:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:00 ` Bob Copeland
2010-11-17 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 15:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 15:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 15:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 16:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:40 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 18:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-18 5:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-18 6:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-17 15:33 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 18:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 18:53 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 19:25 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 9:49 ` Philipp Marek
[not found] ` <4CE38C53.8090606@kernel.org>
2010-11-17 12:07 ` [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18 1:18 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 8:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 16:25 ` hp
2010-11-18 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 19:13 ` AW: " Reichert, Hans-Peter
2010-11-18 17:06 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 12:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Török Edwin
2010-11-17 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:05 ` Török Edwin
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18 0:47 ` Ian Munsie
[not found] ` <20101118151141.GA3368@redhat.com>
2010-11-19 2:32 ` Ian Munsie
2010-11-19 15:23 ` Jason Baron
[not found] ` <4CECACF9.3080907@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <4CFD7182.4060206@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2010-12-07 4:03 ` PowerPC, ftrace: Add PPC raw syscall tracepoints & ftrace fixes Ian Munsie
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