From: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
"robert.richter" <robert.richter@amd.com>,
fweisbec <fweisbec@gmail.com>, paulus <paulus@samba.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] perf: sysfs type id
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:35:50 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE33F86.7040403@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289423135.2084.63.camel@laptop>
On 11/10/2010 01:05 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:53 +0100, Stephane Eranian wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Peter Zijlstra<peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:08 +0100, Stephane Eranian wrote:
>>>> Would that be by passing the full filename to the tool?
>>>
>>> possible, or something like<pmu-name>:<event-name>, cpu:cycles would
>>> map to /sys/class/pmu/cpu/events/cycles (given the previous patch).
>>>
>>>
>> Ok, but I think you're proposal is missing one bit. You are addressing
>> the class (or type) of PMU, but you are not addressing the naming of
>> an instance.
>>
>> Let's take an example, suppose you have counters on a graphic card.
>> Your system has two such graphic cards. In your scheme you would
>> end up with a sys/class/pmu/gfx/.....
>>
>> But now, suppose I want to count cycles on the first graphic card.
>> Seems to me you need to expose the instances as well. The instance
>> number needs to be passed in the attr struct somehow.
>>
>> You can either create multiple subdir under gfx, or have this info somewhere
>> else in the sysfs tree, if people really care about class vs. instance.
>>
>> I can see users doing:
>> $ perf stat -e gfx@1::cycles ... -> sys/class/gfx/1/event/cycles
>>
>> The reason I am using :: here is because libpfm4 is already using
>> this as a separator for PMU type vs. event.
>
>
> right, so the idea is to have these pmu devices hooked into the existing
> sysfs topology, my proposed patch misses that bit because I wanted to
> get something out before having to dig through the topology code trying
> to figure out how all that works.
>
> So the 'cpu' pmu device would be linked from:
>
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/pmu -> /sys/class/pmu/cpu
>
> and gfx things would be linked like:
>
> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:0b:01.0/drm/card0/pmu -> /sys/class/pmu/radeon0
I don't understand the /sys/devices tree much (I will read up on it),
but this idea looks good to me.
To clarify my understanding a bit and taking the gfx example, in the
path /sys/class/pmu/radeon0, is the '0' here denoting the 0'th radeon
chip in the system, or the radeon model number? I would assume the 0'th
chip.
So if I assume that now points to a unique radeon chip in the system,
underneath /sys/class/pmu/radeon0 will be a structure something like:
radeon0/
event/
evt0
..
evtn
And if there is a second radeon chip, there would be a nearly identical
tree:
radeon1/
event/
evt0
..
evtn
Is that correct?
Some of these events may need modifiers / attributes / umasks...
whatever you want to call them. And they may need more than one each,
and they may vary from event to event. So to add to the hierarchy,
we'd have:
radeon0/
type (for attr.type)
event/
evt0/
id (a base number for attr.config)
description (text file - but could be CONFIG_*'d out)
modifiers/
mod0/
formula (some ascii syntax for describing how
to set .config and/or .config_extra
with this modifer's value)
description (text - can configure out)
constraints (some ascii syntax for describing
the values mod0 can take on)
..
modn/
..
evtn/
And this would be replicated for radeon1..n
Maybe all of the "event" directories could be soft links to a common
radeon<model_number> event directory.
When you fully specify an event, you have something like:
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:0b:01.0/drm/card0/pmu/<event>[:<modifier>=nnn:...]
So it wouldn't end up being strictly a sysfs path anymore, and perf
would have a bit of parsing work to do, to evaluate the modifiers, using
the info from constraints, and construct the .type, .config, and
.config_extra fields using formula.
Or maybe you have some other structure in mind?
- Corey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-17 2:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-09 21:45 [RFC][PATCH] perf: sysfs type id Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 22:11 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-09 22:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 22:40 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-09 22:13 ` Greg KH
2010-11-09 23:36 ` Michael Ellerman
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[not found] ` <1289350360.22787.9.camel@concordia>
[not found] ` <AANLkTikGHNkUN6t9rPhdE6XOQiqb5xAzH_9eY6L9h2H2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-11-10 1:10 ` Michael Ellerman
2010-11-10 1:19 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-10 1:45 ` Michael Ellerman
2010-11-10 1:59 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-10 3:37 ` Michael Ellerman
2010-11-10 2:11 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-10 17:31 ` Greg KH
2010-11-10 12:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 13:36 ` sysfs: Add an 'events' class. (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH] perf: sysfs type id) Ingo Molnar
2010-11-10 14:14 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-10 15:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-11 6:39 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-10 13:01 ` [RFC][PATCH] perf: sysfs type id Stephane Eranian
2010-11-10 14:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 14:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 20:08 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-11-10 20:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 20:53 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-11-10 21:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 2:35 ` Corey Ashford [this message]
2010-11-17 7:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-11-17 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 19:47 ` Corey Ashford
2010-11-17 19:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 20:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 21:39 ` Corey Ashford
2010-11-10 14:24 ` Stephane Eranian
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