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From: Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>
To: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	ying.huang@intel.com, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [V2 PATCH 0/6] x86, NMI: give NMI handler a face-lift
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:51:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE583D0.8050407@windriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101118193247.GF18100@redhat.com>

On 11/18/2010 01:32 PM, Don Zickus wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 02:17:12PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 06:47 -0600, Jason Wessel wrote:
>>     
>>> More specifically
>>> when another subsystem injects an NMI event the perf NMI code returns
>>> NOTIFY_STOP. 
>>>       
>> Not unconditionally, right? We only do so when the previous NMI was from
>> the PMU and nobody claimed this one (NOTIFY_STOP from DIE_NMIUNKNOWN).
>>
>> Or are you hitting the other one, where !handled but pmu_nmi.handled >
>> 1 ?
>>     
>
> I think the problem with the virt stuff is that it emulates 0 to the
> rdmsrl calls.  All platforms except perf_events_intel.c rely on checking
> the high bit of the counter register to not be zero, otherwise the code
> thinks it crossed zero and triggered an PMI.
>
> The intel code is a litte smarter and relies on the interrupt logic and
> thus doesn't have this problem (to clarify only core2 and later use this,
> p4 and p6 use the old methods).
>
> So the problem is when the nmi watchdog is enabled, the perf event is
> 'active' and thus tries to read the counter value.  Because it is always
> zero, perf just assumes the counter overflowed and the NMI is his.
>
> Not sure how to fix it yet, other than include the logic that detects we
> are on a guest and disable perf??
>
>   

I highly doubt we want to disable perf.   I would rather use the source
and fix the nmi emulation in KVM/Qemu after we hear back the results
from Cyril because it sounds as if the problem is nearly bottomed out.

I have no problem what so ever updating kvm / qemu if that is final
place we need some fixes.

Thanks,
Jason.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-18 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-12 14:43 [V2 PATCH 0/6] x86, NMI: give NMI handler a face-lift Don Zickus
2010-11-12 14:43 ` [PATCH 1/6] x86, NMI: Add NMI symbol constants and rename memory parity to PCI SERR Don Zickus
2010-11-12 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86, NMI: Add touch_nmi_watchdog to io_check_error delay Don Zickus
2010-11-12 14:43 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86, NMI: Rewrite NMI handler Don Zickus
2010-11-12 14:43 ` [PATCH 4/6] x86, NMI: Remove DIE_NMI_IPI and add priorties to handlers Don Zickus
2010-11-12 14:43 ` [PATCH 5/6] x86, NMI: Allow NMI reason io port (0x61) to be processed on any CPU Don Zickus
2010-11-12 14:43 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86, NMI: Remove do_nmi_callback logic Don Zickus
2010-11-12 15:05 ` [V2 PATCH 0/6] x86, NMI: give NMI handler a face-lift Jason Wessel
2010-11-12 15:42   ` Don Zickus
2010-11-12 15:55     ` Jason Wessel
2010-11-12 16:11       ` Don Zickus
2010-11-12 16:34         ` Jason Wessel
2010-11-12 17:27           ` Don Zickus
2010-11-16 18:43             ` Don Zickus
2010-11-16 20:04               ` Jason Wessel
2010-11-18  8:05                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 12:47                   ` Jason Wessel
2010-11-18 13:17                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 14:32                       ` Don Zickus
2010-11-18 15:18                         ` Jason Wessel
2010-11-18 15:38                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 19:32                       ` Don Zickus
2010-11-18 19:51                         ` Jason Wessel [this message]
2010-11-18 20:04                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 20:08                           ` Don Zickus
2010-11-18 20:11                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 20:52                               ` Don Zickus
2010-11-18 21:01                                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 21:16                                   ` Don Zickus
2010-11-18 21:26                                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 20:28                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 20:39                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 21:02                                 ` Don Zickus
2010-11-18 21:19                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 20:30                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 16:59                               ` Don Zickus
2010-11-19 18:25                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 22:59                                   ` Don Zickus
2010-11-19 23:09                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 23:30                                       ` Jason Wessel
2010-11-22 14:22                                         ` Don Zickus
2010-11-22 14:22                                       ` Don Zickus
2010-11-22 14:29                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 20:04                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 21:56                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 21:58                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 22:15                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-11-18 22:24                             ` Jason Wessel
2010-11-18 22:27                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov

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