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From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>
To: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Wielaard <mjw@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Hui Zhu <teawater@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>,
	"hellogcc@freelists.org" <hellogcc@freelists.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Built kernel without -O2 option
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:40:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF54527.2070609@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101130093106.GD5203@cr0.nay.redhat.com>

Américo Wang wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:12:16AM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 10:59 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Hui Zhu <teawater@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Now, there are a lot of ways to debug the Linux kernel with GDB, like
>>>> qemu, kgtp or kgdb and so on.
>>>> But the developer more like add a printk. It have a lot of reason, a big one is:
>>>> (gdb) p ret
>>>> $3 = <value optimized out>
>>>> And the code execution order is not right.
>>> Really the right place to fix a lot of this would be gcc (and perhaps
>>> gdb). I suspect with some careful work the debugging experience
>>> for -O2 could be improved a lot.
>>> I also believe the latest gccs already have improvements in this area.
>> The VTA branch was merged for GCC 4.5
>> http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Var_Tracking_Assignments
>> Which helps a lot with generating dwarf for previously "optimized out"
>> values. There were also a couple of papers on generating even better
>> debuginfo at the recent GCC Summit: http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/summit2010
>>
>> Jakub Jelínek, Improving debug info for optimized away parameters
>> http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/summit2010?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=jelinek.pdf
>> Alexandre Oliva, Consistent Views at Recommended Breakpoints
>> http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/summit2010?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=oliva.pdf
>>
> 
> Cool! It would be much more convenient if this is solved by gcc.

Those features mentioned at the GCC summit are not real close to 
completion.  I wouldn't put off the discussion just because they're
(possibly) in the pipeline.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-30 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-29  3:56 [PATCH] Built kernel without -O2 option Hui Zhu
2010-11-29  8:16 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-29  8:18   ` microcai
2010-11-29  8:24   ` Hui Zhu
     [not found]     ` <4CF36741.9000808@loongson.cn>
2010-11-29  8:47       ` [hellogcc] " Hui Zhu
2010-11-29  8:55         ` Steven
2010-11-29  8:57           ` Hui Zhu
2010-11-29  9:45         ` 乔崇
2010-11-29 18:10           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-29 18:34             ` Steven J. Magnani
2010-11-29 22:03             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-12-01 13:21               ` Hui Zhu
2010-12-01 12:23           ` bekars
2010-12-01 13:24             ` Hui Zhu
2010-12-01 13:58               ` bekars
2010-12-01 15:01                 ` Hui Zhu
2010-12-01 15:42                   ` jovi zhang
2010-11-29  8:52     ` Américo Wang
2010-11-29  9:11       ` Hui Zhu
2010-11-29 18:03       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-29 20:51       ` richard -rw- weinberger
2010-11-29 21:00         ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-29 21:07           ` richard -rw- weinberger
2010-11-29  9:44   ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-11-29 11:12     ` Segher Boessenkool
2010-11-29 11:17       ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-11-29 11:57         ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2010-12-01 12:18     ` Hui Zhu
2010-11-29  9:59 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-29 10:12   ` Mark Wielaard
2010-11-30  9:31     ` Américo Wang
2010-11-30 18:40       ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2010-12-01 12:52   ` Hui Zhu
2010-11-29 19:05 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-11-29 21:07 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-30 22:40   ` Petr Hluzín
2010-12-01 13:42     ` Hui Zhu
2010-12-01 13:10   ` Hui Zhu
2011-01-24  7:47 ` Hui Zhu
2011-01-24  8:11   ` Kevin Pouget
2011-01-24 12:42     ` Hui Zhu
2011-01-28  3:41       ` Hui Zhu
2011-02-17  2:43         ` Hui Zhu
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTik+beFdZZHLyei044q8EPHwvmiKoFAvAHsNuhmw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-02-21 12:51             ` Kevin Pouget
2011-02-23  5:19             ` Hui Zhu

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