From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
aliguori@us.ibm.com, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM-GST: KVM Steal time accounting
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:51:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D493725.402@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D492DBA.9050603@redhat.com>
On 02/02/2011 12:11 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/01/2011 05:57 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 16:04 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> > On 01/28/2011 09:52 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> > > This patch accounts steal time time in kernel/sched.
>> > > I kept it from last proposal, because I still see advantages
>> > > in it: Doing it here will give us easier access from scheduler
>> > > variables such as the cpu rq. The next patch shows an example of
>> > > usage for it.
>> > >
>> > > Since functions like account_idle_time() can be called from
>> > > multiple places, not only account_process_tick(), steal time
>> > > grabbing is repeated in each account function separatedely.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I accept that steal time is worthwhile, but do you have some way to
>> > demonstrate that the implementation actually works and is beneficial?
>> >
>> > Perhaps run two cpu-bound compute processes on one vcpu,
>> overcommit that
>> > vcpu, and see what happens to the processing rate with and without
>> steal
>> > time accounting. I'd expect a fairer response with steal time
>> accounting.
>>
>> Avi,
>>
>> There are two things here:
>> One of them, which is solely the accounting of steal time, (patches 1 to
>> 4) has absolutely nothing to do with what you said. Its sole purpose is
>> to provide the user with information about "why is my process slow if I
>> am using 100 % of my cpu?")
>
> Right. Like irq and softirq time, we need to report this to the user,
> as it's potentially much higher.
Of course, it's not enough to just account for this time, you also have
to expose it somewhere, and update tools like top(1) to display it.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-02 10:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-28 19:52 [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM Steal time, new submission Glauber Costa
2011-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] KVM-HDR: KVM Steal time implementation Glauber Costa
2011-01-29 1:28 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] KVM-HV: " Glauber Costa
2011-01-29 1:46 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-30 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-01 15:48 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-01 17:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-01 19:58 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-02 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-31 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM-GST: KVM Steal time accounting Glauber Costa
2011-01-29 1:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-29 1:27 ` Glauber Costa
2011-01-29 1:53 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-30 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-30 16:45 ` lidong chen
2011-02-01 15:58 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-01 15:57 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-02 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 10:51 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-02 11:57 ` Glauber Costa
2011-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] KVM-GST: KVM Steal time registration Glauber Costa
2011-01-29 2:16 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-30 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-01 15:53 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-01 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 17:00 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-01 17:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 20:20 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2011-01-31 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] KVM-GST: adjust scheduler cpu power Glauber Costa
2011-01-31 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 11:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 15:59 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-01 16:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 16:22 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-01 18:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 19:55 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-01 20:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Describe KVM_MSR_STEAL_TIME Glauber Costa
2011-01-30 13:19 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-01 15:54 ` Glauber Costa
2011-02-02 10:14 ` Avi Kivity
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