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From: Frank Rowand <frank.rowand@gmail.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:00:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D52E441.2000805@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110209184010.GB23747@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>

On 02/09/11 10:40, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 10:31:29AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote:
> 
>> Raphael's patch will turn on CONFIG_PM in the correct circumstances, and
>> leave it off when not needed by other config options.  That means that
>> the size overhead will _not_ be an issue for me because CONFIG_PM
>> will not be enabled when not needed.
> 
> That's not the issue you seemed to be raising, though.  While PM is now
> turned on by PM_SLEEP that'll end up getting turned on by default due to
> the dependency on SUSPEND - you appeared to be raising the concern that
> this could happen and surprise users.

No, that is not my concern.  I was saying that Raphael's patches do
not trigger any concern from me.

My concern was that in your very first email that started this thread,
you wrote:

On 02/07/11 04:22, Mark Brown wrote:
> It is very rare to find a current system which is both sufficiently
> resource constrained to want to compile out power management support
> and sufficiently power insensitive to be able to tolerate doing so.
> Since having the configuration option requires non-zero effort to
> maintain, with ifdefery in most drivers, but it is used with vanishing
> rarity it is simpler to just remove the option.

and my understanding of this proposal was a goal to remove the ability
to have CONFIG_PM disabled, which results in increased memory usage
for some configurations.

-Frank

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-09 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-07 12:22 [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 13:26   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 13:09   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:18   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:44     ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:50       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:10           ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19             ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:21               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:36                 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:49                   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:16                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  1:17                     ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08 11:18                       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:30   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:46     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 20:18       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 21:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 21:47           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 22:00             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 22:23               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 23:05                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  0:50                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08  9:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 16:48                   ` Paul Mundt
2011-02-08 12:12           ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 12:21           ` [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08 21:18             ` [PATCH 0/5] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:20               ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPI / PM: Move references to pm_flags into sleep.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-09  0:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09  1:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 21:21               ` [PATCH 2/5] PM: Make CONFIG_PM depend on (CONFIG_PM_SLEEP || CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21               ` [PATCH 3/5] PM: Reorder power management Kconfig options Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:22               ` [PATCH 4/5] PM: Replace CONFIG_PM_OPS with CONFIG_PM Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:23               ` [PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up Kconfig dependencies Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-10 23:32                 ` [Updated][PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up PM_TRACE dependencies and drop unnecessary Kconfig option Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:35             ` [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 11:41               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:58                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 17:07                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 18:31                   ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 18:40                     ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:00                       ` Frank Rowand [this message]
2011-02-09 19:25                         ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:53                           ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09 19:59                             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 20:09                               ` Alan Stern
2011-02-09 20:10                                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 23:35             ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09  2:41               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08  2:52 ` [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 14:15   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 14:29 ` Pavel Machek

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